100 watt amps
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ErikH
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Re: 100 watt amps
Gotcha. Aggressive music venues here are few and far between anymore. It's pretty much all in downtown Dallas and small places scattered around.
With the stuff I like to play, there's a boatload of venues. It's mostly bars but we also get in on the local festivals and a few benefits every year. I've used my 100 watt Marshall indoors twice in the last 5 years and each time it was overkill, but we did it because me and the other guitarist wanted to run our visually matching rigs. These days we reserve them for the outdoor gigs and that's it. However, this past Sunday night we ran our combos for quick setup and tear down and I must say, the stage volume was much more comfortable.
I like playing loud every now and then just as much as the next guy but when it can drive away patrons and cost gigs, it's not worth it. Besides, "I" want to be able to hear the next morning.
You take those bands you mentioned and put them in venues we play, they won't be invited back. It's that simple. In places that features said bands, great, crank it up.
Gotcha. Aggressive music venues here are few and far between anymore. It's pretty much all in downtown Dallas and small places scattered around.
With the stuff I like to play, there's a boatload of venues. It's mostly bars but we also get in on the local festivals and a few benefits every year. I've used my 100 watt Marshall indoors twice in the last 5 years and each time it was overkill, but we did it because me and the other guitarist wanted to run our visually matching rigs. These days we reserve them for the outdoor gigs and that's it. However, this past Sunday night we ran our combos for quick setup and tear down and I must say, the stage volume was much more comfortable.
I like playing loud every now and then just as much as the next guy but when it can drive away patrons and cost gigs, it's not worth it. Besides, "I" want to be able to hear the next morning.
You take those bands you mentioned and put them in venues we play, they won't be invited back. It's that simple. In places that features said bands, great, crank it up.
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King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: 100 watt amps
Yep.
Yep.
Re: 100 watt amps
I remember winning tix to see Living Color in a little club at Jax beach before they got big. ( next time thru they were opening for the Stones) Anyhow, my wife and I (she's not a hard rock fan) were about 5 foot from Vernon's Marshall stacks. Was the loudest show Ive ever been to. My wife couldnt hear for nearly 3 days. We were mortified that she was deaf.. (she has EXTREMELY keen hearing, whereas I am 80% deaf)
I remember winning tix to see Living Color in a little club at Jax beach before they got big. ( next time thru they were opening for the Stones) Anyhow, my wife and I (she's not a hard rock fan) were about 5 foot from Vernon's Marshall stacks. Was the loudest show Ive ever been to. My wife couldnt hear for nearly 3 days. We were mortified that she was deaf.. (she has EXTREMELY keen hearing, whereas I am 80% deaf)
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: 100 watt amps
A general rule of thumb
if the vocalist in your band is a 30-something female with a "versatile" voice and you have a Steve Miller song in your setlist, you and I do not share the same stages.
and you make more money at it.
just sayin'.
A general rule of thumb
if the vocalist in your band is a 30-something female with a "versatile" voice and you have a Steve Miller song in your setlist, you and I do not share the same stages.
and you make more money at it.
just sayin'.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Johtosotku
New member
Re: 100 watt amps
I make it a point that the barkeeper can hear the orders.
On the other hand, bars are usually very loud from the drunken people without a band playing.
I make it a point that the barkeeper can hear the orders.
On the other hand, bars are usually very loud from the drunken people without a band playing.
richard parker
Active member
Re: 100 watt amps
If I'm listening to a band in a pub I don't want to be deafened but I do expect to have to communicate with the bar staff in sign language.
If I'm listening to a band in a pub I don't want to be deafened but I do expect to have to communicate with the bar staff in sign language.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: 100 watt amps
Sure, a handful of people in the crowd may like having their heads ringing a few days after seeing a local band, but to the vast majority it's no fun, and some may not go back.
Sure, a handful of people in the crowd may like having their heads ringing a few days after seeing a local band, but to the vast majority it's no fun, and some may not go back.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: 100 watt amps
Absolutely. Dazzle them with some tasty guitar work, instead of being remembered for being excessively loud. More skill, not more volume. Any 15 year old kid can turn an amp up too high. Wouldn't you rather get applause for your solos, and when you walk off stage? When you mingle with the crowd, do you want them saying to you; "Man, that was some great playing, can I buy you a drink", instead of "Geez, I think I have permanent hearing damage, thanks a lot, numbnuts."
Absolutely. Dazzle them with some tasty guitar work, instead of being remembered for being excessively loud. More skill, not more volume. Any 15 year old kid can turn an amp up too high. Wouldn't you rather get applause for your solos, and when you walk off stage? When you mingle with the crowd, do you want them saying to you; "Man, that was some great playing, can I buy you a drink", instead of "Geez, I think I have permanent hearing damage, thanks a lot, numbnuts."
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: 100 watt amps
I'm not so sure how comfortable I am with you speaking for the vast majority of the people who come to our shows.
I'm not so sure how comfortable I am with you speaking for the vast majority of the people who come to our shows.
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: 100 watt amps
People that go to the shows we're talking about expect to leave with tinnitus.
People that go to the shows we're talking about expect to leave with tinnitus.
ErikH
Well-known member
Re: 100 watt amps
bluesman: it's not even about the guitar playing. Sure, it definitely helps to play the songs well, but even outside of that, the entire band playing tight and getting the people going, dancing, singing along, buying more drinks and in general just having a good time.
sosomething: your band caters to a different crowd since you guys do originals. You want people to come out to see you guys and get recognized. We do too, but we play covers and most of the places have their own crowds. Our goal is to get the girls on the dance floor and them show us their titties....LOL.
bluesman: it's not even about the guitar playing. Sure, it definitely helps to play the songs well, but even outside of that, the entire band playing tight and getting the people going, dancing, singing along, buying more drinks and in general just having a good time.
sosomething: your band caters to a different crowd since you guys do originals. You want people to come out to see you guys and get recognized. We do too, but we play covers and most of the places have their own crowds. Our goal is to get the girls on the dance floor and them show us their titties....LOL.
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: 100 watt amps
true on both counts
if I'm out at a bar where there's a cover band playing - which I admit is really, really rare - I don't want them pinning me to the wall with volume. I don't want the jukebox turned up that loud, either.
Original shows are another matter, and the type of music is a factor as well.
I usually take earplugs to those shows. My own, included. It's as much about the feeling of overwhelming volume as it is the sound. As dumb as that sounds.
All of that being said, I have seen bands who really were just way too loud. Just too loud to even comprehend. I didn't like it.
true on both counts
if I'm out at a bar where there's a cover band playing - which I admit is really, really rare - I don't want them pinning me to the wall with volume. I don't want the jukebox turned up that loud, either.
Original shows are another matter, and the type of music is a factor as well.
I usually take earplugs to those shows. My own, included. It's as much about the feeling of overwhelming volume as it is the sound. As dumb as that sounds.
All of that being said, I have seen bands who really were just way too loud. Just too loud to even comprehend. I didn't like it.
Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
Re: 100 watt amps
It depends mostly on the whole , originals or covers.... style of music.... playing ability... etc.
If I go to a bar and want to hear some good blues/jazz/acoustic stuff I don't expect to get blasted in the face by a cranked bassman (have heard that happen, sounded good but it about killed me). I want to hear moderate volume and something I can reasonably talk over.
If I go and see Alice Cooper or anything heavier it needs to be loud so I can feel the music.
Lot of factors.
It depends mostly on the whole , originals or covers.... style of music.... playing ability... etc.
If I go to a bar and want to hear some good blues/jazz/acoustic stuff I don't expect to get blasted in the face by a cranked bassman (have heard that happen, sounded good but it about killed me). I want to hear moderate volume and something I can reasonably talk over.
If I go and see Alice Cooper or anything heavier it needs to be loud so I can feel the music.
Lot of factors.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: 100 watt amps
Fair enough. The local blues & rock bands I see are mostly cover bands. In a big indoor venue, or outdoors festival, you expect a high volume level. That's normal, if it's too loud for you, step back a ways. In the average small bar, there's no place else to go and you don't want to have drinks vibrating all over the tables.
That reminds me, Blue Cheer (California hippie band) had a reputation of being the world's loudest rock band back in the day, and one of their compilation albums was titled "Louder Than God."
Fair enough. The local blues & rock bands I see are mostly cover bands. In a big indoor venue, or outdoors festival, you expect a high volume level. That's normal, if it's too loud for you, step back a ways. In the average small bar, there's no place else to go and you don't want to have drinks vibrating all over the tables.
That reminds me, Blue Cheer (California hippie band) had a reputation of being the world's loudest rock band back in the day, and one of their compilation albums was titled "Louder Than God."
everdrone
New member
Re: 100 watt amps
if your rig is really that loud, it is gonna leak into the drum mics and bass mic and definitely the singers mike!
what does that mean? it means the singer cannot be heard. I have seen shows like that with half stacks, when the singer moves around and cant be heard when near the guitarists stack o' doom! teeheehee
if your rig is really that loud, it is gonna leak into the drum mics and bass mic and definitely the singers mike!
what does that mean? it means the singer cannot be heard. I have seen shows like that with half stacks, when the singer moves around and cant be heard when near the guitarists stack o' doom! teeheehee
