2 guitars with same gauge and different tension

[PFDarkside]

Re: 2 guitars with same gauge and different tension

I'm not sure we are on the same page here. If the springs are stretching a little bit during a bend, then the player has to bend "further" to hit the same pitch compared to no spring involvement. So yes, I agree the player is essentially fighting the spring. But my point (or question) is how does the spring give the feel of less tension if it actually requires more travel (a "deeper" bend) to hit the same pitch during a bend? Again, ultimately, it's the string that has to be stretched to reach pitch.

In the end, the string needs to be stretched enough to raise the tension to the pitch needed. On a hardtail you are only stretching the string, on a non-blocked trem you are stretching the string and spring... but remember you have 5 other strings pulling against the springs as well. When at rest, everything is at equilibrium, when you bend there are multiple forces opposing each other.

I agree that a trem guitar needs the string stretched "further" across the fretboard to reach the pitch.... that can be interpreted as more or less force by the player, depending on how they feel the bend. Same with strumming, the trem will give a little, feeling slinkier. A hardtail seems more stiff.

 

[Darg1911]

Re: 2 guitars with same gauge and different tension

In the end, the string needs to be stretched enough to raise the tension to the pitch needed. On a hardtail you are only stretching the string, on a non-blocked trem you are stretching the string and spring... but remember you have 5 other strings pulling against the springs as well. When at rest, everything is at equilibrium, when you bend there are multiple forces opposing each other.

I agree that a trem guitar needs the string stretched "further" across the fretboard to reach the pitch.... that can be interpreted as more or less force by the player, depending on how they feel the bend. Same with strumming, the trem will give a little, feeling slinkier. A hardtail seems more stiff.

I don't disagree with any of that.

 

[Willy25]

Re: 2 guitars with same gauge and different tension

In the end, the string needs to be stretched enough to raise the tension to the pitch needed. On a hardtail you are only stretching the string, on a non-blocked trem you are stretching the string and spring... but remember you have 5 other strings pulling against the springs as well. When at rest, everything is at equilibrium, when you bend there are multiple forces opposing each other.

I agree that a trem guitar needs the string stretched "further" across the fretboard to reach the pitch.... that can be interpreted as more or less force by the player, depending on how they feel the bend. Same with strumming, the trem will give a little, feeling slinkier. A hardtail seems more stiff.

thanks again, that makes sense.