carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Bfeeney said:
Get poster board and trace the carvin so you know exactly how it should look when it's done (well, 180 deg. off). Cut the neck out of the carvin, get a $21 body from GFS, cut the middle out of it and glue the sides onto the carvin neck.

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Satin-Finished-Black-Matte-Double-Cutway-Body-HSH-with-Floyd-Cut-_p_10578.html
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That's easier said then done. And yeah it wouldn't be too hard but it would require some investment in large clamps. For best results you would need access to a bandsaw and a jointer. You would also need a good hand planer to level everything off. I doubt the gsf body would be one peice so you would end up with wings made of 2 parts...

And not to mention the absolute hassle it would be to get those wings off the carvin neck.

Just my 2cents but i think for his skill level and the nature oft he guitar a cutaway might be a better option.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

I would say to be VERY careful he doesn't cut into the neck. Anything powered, especially rotary, may spin him off into bad places. Do it by hand. It'll take a while, but best to small bits than try to knock the whole chunk off and cut something you didn't want to. I would opt for a cheap coping saw and a gentler rasp for doing the bevel/eased edges. Then 80 grit, 150 grit, 250 grit sandpaper. Then do your painting.

take it slowly.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

jon the art guy said:
I would say to be VERY careful he doesn't cut into the neck. Anything powered, especially rotary, may spin him off into bad places. Do it by hand. It'll take a while, but best to small bits than try to knock the whole chunk off and cut something you didn't want to. I would opt for a cheap coping saw and a gentler rasp for doing the bevel/eased edges. Then 80 grit, 150 grit, 250 grit sandpaper. Then do your painting.

take it slowly.
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point taken, thanx a lot.
i have also written to Carvin, i am awaiting their response as well.

I might see for some help during the painting phase. I have done minor car corrections (just ok), but nothing on the guitar. Is there any primer involved ? or just paint->clear coat, polishing and we are done?

Now that i think about it, coping saw would be great, + if i detect any loss of tonality (which i doubt), then i'd glue it back!
 
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Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

jon the art guy said:
if it's a neck through and it's a Carvin, you should be able to just cut the sides off and it'll still be playable. The body is just a pair of glued-on wings to make it not look like a stick.

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IF your guitar hasn't folded in half yet, it probably won't.
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Hey i was just thinking about it : My guitar has a floyd rose. How on earth does it manage to have stability from neck to bridge, if there is hardly any wood under the bridge? Does it follow some triangle shape when it glues to the body ? in order to accommodate enough strength to support the bridge? I just can't get it now that i think about it.

Maybe the side wings are now of vital importance to the stability of the neck? acting as the connecting element between the weak-hollow are around the bridge and the stronger area to the neck?
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

While true, when two pieces of wood are glued together the bond is actually stronger than a one-piece.
It's not as if there's no wood under the Floyd route, less sure but still plenty left, however right now both wings hold the entire area around the route as well, nothing as dramatic as up the horns though.

It's not as if one would unglue the sides while the guitar was under tension...
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Thanx KeeperOS & Kramersteen!
Now my plan is to just eat away from the inner curve in the middle where the greatest resistance to hand movement in posed. Not to do anything with the area near the neck.

whatcha say?
 
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Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

greekdude said:
Thanx KeeperOS & Kramersteen!
Now my plan is to just eat away from the inner curve in the middle where the greatest resistance to hand movement in posed. Not to do anything with the area near the neck.

whatcha say?
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Yeah! Just get on the job already man. :laugh2: i wanna see results
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Be careful, go slow and keep an eye out and all should be good.

Now for the disclaimer, in the case that you're not 100% comfortable then don't take any risks, use a pro.

CheerS bro!
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Wife went out today, i was alone with the kids, perfect time for action!
I think i did it, i used a rotary wood carving tool attached to my power drill + 60 grit sandpaper for smoothing. Result :
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Here is the view underneath to show where the wood was when the pickguard was installed:
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And the tools :
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As a result, now i can reach (with some bearable difficulty) the 24th fret with my little finger, generally i guess its close to perfect, and currently i hesitate to go any further.

Did not notice any alteration to sustain, tone, stability.
As a side note, the wood seemed to be remarkably strong and hard! it was pain to carve out even with the power tool! I kept the wood dust just in case.

Just need your advice now. What should i do to protect the wood? What should i do next? primer? paint? clear coat? Should i visit a carpenter shop and buy some paint/clear coat?
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Hmm not bad but it doesn't look finished to me? I still think you need those hand tools bro

Are you going to route a new control cavity and plug all those old holes before or are you just gonna keep it a rustic beast?

Painting is going to be a big job especially if you want a nice finish. You could always do a natural oil finish on it?
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Thanx bro, all input taken into account.
Now that i've seen its stable, I might go a little deeper, to reach full accessibility and then i'll do the sanding job. I doubt that stability might be affected.
Then i'll go for a fine sanding job and then for primer/paint/clear coat.
All i care is the wood to be protected, looks are already screwed!
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Then go with Tru-oil, it's hand-rubbed, easy to apply and protects the wood just fine. but first you might wanna sand it smooth, there's a lot of uneven parts there :)
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

You could take a LOT more out and not affect the stability. As far as finishing it......if you don't mind how it looks, I wouldn't worry about finishing it. Kind of gives it some more of that beastly charm it has going on.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

KeeperOS said:
Then go with Tru-oil, it's hand-rubbed, easy to apply and protects the wood just fine. but first you might wanna sand it smooth, there's a lot of uneven parts there :)
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thanx man, is this tru-oil some kind of primer? can i apply paint after wards?
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

J E C said:
You could take a LOT more out and not affect the stability. As far as finishing it......if you don't mind how it looks, I wouldn't worry about finishing it. Kind of gives it some more of that beastly charm it has going on.
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thanx for your help man! very much appreciated!
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

Yeah take more out bro.

Look at this dudes cutaways HAHA! If that thing hasn't had any problems i doubt yours will.
 
Re: carvin neckthrough : left-handed -> right handed cutaway

greekdude said:
All i care is the wood to be protected, looks are already screwed!
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No imo you could easily fix the looks. You could make it stunning! If it was mine i would go all out, I deserves it.

New cavity for a righty, Easy routing job if you get the templates
You could put a thin exotic wood cap veneer on the back and front to hide all the extra holes/cavity.

Just my 2cents on the matter.

[video]http://projectguitar.com/tut/veneer.htm[/video]
LOOK^^

Edit, Actually there was a dude on this forum who did that to his jackson? It might of made it to one of the ultimate axe threads.

Snoogles natural jackson?? I think thats it.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?267893-SDUG-ULTIMATE-AXE-Refinish-poll-poll!!!!!

Edit 2, i think he only did the headstock, But you get the idea.
 
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