Les Paul Classic

Holy Diver

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What is your opinion of the Les Paul Classic? The one with the 500T in the bridge. How does it compare to the Studio, Standard, and others? I have found one for a good price and was just wondering. I play 80s metal (Ratt, Dokken, Dio). Thanks in advance.
 
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The green inlays, and pickups are really the only differences between the Classic and Standard.

A lot of metal players like the 496R/500T combo.

The classic rock or blues players are the ones who usually like to swap them out.
 
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The early models that say Les Paul "Model" on the headstock and "Classic" on the trussrod cover seem to be the most desirable version of the LP Classic. The inlays aren't snot green on those! Supposedly Gibson changed the Classic early on because it became a rival to their Historic line when released. I love mine but wish the neck was a little beefier......it has the slim taper 60's neck. The 500t is killer in my opinon! Nice guitar and a good value.......I'd buy one before settling for an Epiphone or Studio.

Just my $0.02 USD...
 
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Love mine. But had to switch out those horrid pickups. Mine doesn't have green inlays.
 
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The early models that say Les Paul "Model" on the headstock and "Classic" on the trussrod cover seem to be the most desirable version of the LP Classic. The inlays aren't snot green on those! Supposedly Gibson changed the Classic early on because it became a rival to their Historic line when released. I love mine but wish the neck was a little beefier......it has the slim taper 60's neck. The 500t is killer in my opinon! Nice guitar and a good value.......I'd buy one before settling for an Epiphone or Studio.

Just my $0.02 USD...
The one I have a line on says all that on the headstock. Should I pull the trigger? Is it really that rare of a find? It's a really good price they are asking too.
 
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I really can't say it's all that rare but if you research them the "Model" version seems to be more desirable.......My asumption comes from constantly looking at guitars on Ebay! I like to think it's rare and super valuable, thats because I have one and got it for a steal back in about 1990!
 
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Looking around on Ebay I see the "Model" era Classics running up to around 95-96 making it about a 6 year run, give or take......so no, not really all that rare. I don't think you can go wrong with this guitar if it plays well, speaks to you and the price is right!
 
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I have a 2000 model... the inlays are more yellow than green, far from ugly IMO. Slim taper neck (kinda nice, it's all personal preference though), the pick-ups were ok. The guy who sold the guitar to me did a great job adjusting them. I did change them to a brobucker / seth lover neck combo... much nicer still.

Mine's a one-piece back... they are nice guitars IMO and I love the plaintops. As it was said before, you can't go wrong if it plays and sounds nice, especially since they're cheaper than standards on the used market.
 
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Thanks for the help. I'm more of a super strat guy, but I have always wanted a Paul. If I buy it you guys will be the first to see it.
 
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The green inlays, and pickups are really the only differences between the Classic and Standard.

A lot of metal players like the 496R/500T combo.

The classic rock or blues players are the ones who usually like to swap them out.

Don't forget that they only come with the 60s neck.... :)
 
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Before buying it it may be a good idea to post a few pics on the forum to be sure its authentic. Personally, I'd be really paranoid with all the fakes going around... Goodluck to you. :)
 
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500t will be rippin' forthose sounds.

Those inlays can supposedly be brightened by exposure to direct sun. Check the Gibson forum for details.
 
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I have two Classics (actually three). The two are from 1996 (HCSB) and 1997 (Honeyburst) and are Premium Plus models that have "Les Paul Classic" in the headstock silkscreen.

Both are excellent guitars. Necks seem to vary quite a bit on Classics--my '96 has a fatter neck, almost like a '59 Historic; the '97 is flat, thin and fast. Tops are very close to the figuring of the original sunbursts featured in the "Beauty of the Burst" book. These were actually more expensive than the LP Standards of the day--the list on each of mine was over $5K. (I didn't pay that much!) :nana: :nana: LOL!

I did replace the pickups with Duncans. The HCSB got the MF 50th Anniversary A2 Seths, and the Honeyburst got Antiquitys. I have RS Kits for both of them that I haven't had time to install; and I got Gotoh LW Tailpieces (from Stew-Mac) installed. They have about 90-95% of the tone, but a different vibe than a Historic. I also have a 2005 '58 Historic. That fat neck and the long tenon does make a difference in the resonance of the guitar.

Now I LIKED the 496R/500T set, but they just had too much power for my Mesa Boogies. I think these would be great for anyone using and old non-MV Marshall or BF Fender--they will really make these amps sing. I suspect they will sound good plugged into some of the old SS amps--like SUNNs, Kustoms, and Acoustics, too. The Gibson Ceramics have the tone of a PAF, but they really hammer the front end of your amp.

All in all, I basically cherry-picked these two guitars--and I love them. But I will STRONGLY ADVISE you to check the neck of any LP you buy--these vary widely--and some of them are downright nasty.

Oh, that third Classic? It's actually a new Classic Antique Fireburst, from Gibson's Guitar Of The Week series. I love the looks of this guitar, and it's probably the best made guitar of the eight Gibsons I own. Very different from my solid body Classics (with their weight-relief holes), the chambered CAF clocks in at a svelte 7.6 lbs. The power comes from a Classic '57 in the neck and a Classic '57 Plus in the bridge--and this is turning into one of my favorite pickup combinations. Even though it is chambered, it still kicks booty like a Les Paul should. With its lively resonance and light weight, it is a joy to play.

The Classic Antique is a new addition to the Gibson line, with a slightly different feel than the Classic. The Fireburst finish was special to the GOTW series, but they have some beautiful bursts. The CA is being regarded as becoming one of the best values in the Gibson line.

But the original Classics, whether in plain-top, Plus, or Premium Plus versions are fine guitars. After about 2000, they start to change some of the features, and these changes may not be as desirable as the earlier guitars. The original Plus and Premium Plus guitars are very upscale and desirable guitars, but you have to like the neck.

One final note: use caution in dating a Les Paul Classic, as this series has its own unique code--different than the Historic models, and different than the regular production models.

Good luck in your search.

Bill
 
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The Les Paul classic I have been looking at comes in Saphire Blue if that means anything. It says Les Paul MODEL on the headstock and then Classic on the truss rod cover. I know the current models don't come in this color. Maybe that will help someone date it. Thanks for all the help.
 
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What's the serial number? That should date it easily.

I have a '91 Classic (in my avatar) and it's a fantastic guitar. The only thing it's lacking is the perfect bridge pickup. The PG and Jazz both sound excellent in the neck position, but I've yet to find the ideal match for this guitar in the bridge position. Think I need to try me a Brobucker. ;)
 
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What's the serial number? That should date it easily.

I have a '91 Classic (in my avatar) and it's a fantastic guitar. The only thing it's lacking is the perfect bridge pickup. The PG and Jazz both sound excellent in the neck position, but I've yet to find the ideal match for this guitar in the bridge position. Think I need to try me a Brobucker. ;)
Yes you do... it works wonders in my Classic... although I'm still debating over trying the custom in there. I just love that Custom.
 
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Have you tried the CC Simon? It is kinda hot, but I know it sounds absolutely killer in my LP into my JMP. I'm guessing you've already had a got at this combo, but I know it works well for me!
 
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Have you tried the CC Simon? It is kinda hot, but I know it sounds absolutely killer in my LP into my JMP. I'm guessing you've already had a got at this combo, but I know it works well for me!

Actually I've never tried a CC. I have two Customs and a spare A2 magnet so I ought to give it a go.
 
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