SirJackdeFuzz
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Going by this demo only - which one do you prefer ?
Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
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Going by this demo only - which one do you prefer ?
DankStar
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
77 sounded the best (coincidentally, thats where i hang out these days on my gsp1101). I was surprised the artist sounded so nice.
For my riffs and style I'd probably hang with the 77 or the mkiii. But it's tough to tell with the 800 line because sometimes an OD changes everything to perfect.
I need to hear some palm muting to see what's going on too. A lot of open chords sound similar through different amps. That dudes not much of a palm muter.
77 sounded the best (coincidentally, thats where i hang out these days on my gsp1101). I was surprised the artist sounded so nice.
For my riffs and style I'd probably hang with the 77 or the mkiii. But it's tough to tell with the 800 line because sometimes an OD changes everything to perfect.
I need to hear some palm muting to see what's going on too. A lot of open chords sound similar through different amps. That dudes not much of a palm muter.
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jon the art guy
Nerdy Nerd
Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
I liked the JTM-1C the best. As I dunno nothin about Marshalls because I historically think it's the Folgers coffee of guitar tone, but the JTM-1C sounded like it had a certain amount of more fullness while still maintaining that top-end skank, and it was a little lower gain. Some of those were just too mid-hi EQed, The JCM800 from the 80s sounded really dark to me, but I liked the drive on it.
If I'm doing high gain, it'll be either out of a pedal or out of a Matamp-style ultrabrit.
I liked the JTM-1C the best. As I dunno nothin about Marshalls because I historically think it's the Folgers coffee of guitar tone, but the JTM-1C sounded like it had a certain amount of more fullness while still maintaining that top-end skank, and it was a little lower gain. Some of those were just too mid-hi EQed, The JCM800 from the 80s sounded really dark to me, but I liked the drive on it.
If I'm doing high gain, it'll be either out of a pedal or out of a Matamp-style ultrabrit.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
I'd take the 1980 JMP 2204 and 92 JCM900 MKIII. Part of the reason is because they sounded good in the clip, but also because they're definitive years that sound great when they're in optimum running condition.
I'd take the 1980 JMP 2204 and 92 JCM900 MKIII. Part of the reason is because they sounded good in the clip, but also because they're definitive years that sound great when they're in optimum running condition.
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SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
I think the Vintage Modern with Mid Boost 'ON' wins for me !
I think the Vintage Modern with Mid Boost 'ON' wins for me !
Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
Man, we really have similar tastes don't we? It's the mid-boost that made it a winner for me.
Man, we really have similar tastes don't we? It's the mid-boost that made it a winner for me.
Boogie Bill
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
That's an interesting vid. I'm wondering what kind of dirt box he's using?
Surprised that the SS Marshalls sounded so good, especially the Valvestate 8080. I like the deep bottom of the DSL 100 but there seems to be something missing in the upper registers, if that makes any sense. The JCM 800 4010 demo sounds NOTHING like my 4010 (EL-34s and G-85 speaker) did--mine could be really bright and piercing, but it always sounded killer in those third and fourth sets. The JCM 900 I thought sounded good; some people bash these amps, and I feel it often undeserved. The Vintage Modern is one of my faves, but I would save the mid boost switch for when I'm using single coils--it can get a little too thick.
And while I'd love to own another Marshall, there's nothing here that is going to make me junk my Mark III, IV and V Mesas.
Bill
That's an interesting vid. I'm wondering what kind of dirt box he's using?
Surprised that the SS Marshalls sounded so good, especially the Valvestate 8080. I like the deep bottom of the DSL 100 but there seems to be something missing in the upper registers, if that makes any sense. The JCM 800 4010 demo sounds NOTHING like my 4010 (EL-34s and G-85 speaker) did--mine could be really bright and piercing, but it always sounded killer in those third and fourth sets. The JCM 900 I thought sounded good; some people bash these amps, and I feel it often undeserved. The Vintage Modern is one of my faves, but I would save the mid boost switch for when I'm using single coils--it can get a little too thick.
And while I'd love to own another Marshall, there's nothing here that is going to make me junk my Mark III, IV and V Mesas.
Bill
Gone_Shootin
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
It's tough for me to pick one. The DSL, 900, and a couple others stand out in this demo, though, which kinda surprised me.
How was the class? I wanted to sign up for it, but just don't have the extra cash or time right now.
It's tough for me to pick one. The DSL, 900, and a couple others stand out in this demo, though, which kinda surprised me.
How was the class? I wanted to sign up for it, but just don't have the extra cash or time right now.
jimijames
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
So, I think what speakers you listen through will change your answer a lot. For me, the MG series sounded like there was very little treble to it. The valvestate sounded good but again, kind of 'boxy' for lack of a better word. My two favorites (after one listen, may have to go back) were the 87 lead (3005) and the DSL 100H, because those didn't cut off as many of the high/low frequencies. They sounded wider to me as well.
I don't think marshalls are cookie cutter sounds any more than mesas or fenders, and IME you can't go wrong with any of them really, except maybe the MG series. My .02, for what they're worth, would be to go with something that's all tube and high headroom (>50w) and pepper it up with your guitar of choice. But! That's not to say the MG doesn't sound great in a band setting - the video IMO suffers from guitarist syndrome (bass/drums soundtrack was the only accompaniment), where you think you're the most important thing in the room.
I'm not the stephen hawking of marshall amps but what I do know is that many of the amps that sounded so-so in the clip would sound excellent live with the right person playing. But such is the life we lead.
So, I think what speakers you listen through will change your answer a lot. For me, the MG series sounded like there was very little treble to it. The valvestate sounded good but again, kind of 'boxy' for lack of a better word. My two favorites (after one listen, may have to go back) were the 87 lead (3005) and the DSL 100H, because those didn't cut off as many of the high/low frequencies. They sounded wider to me as well.
I don't think marshalls are cookie cutter sounds any more than mesas or fenders, and IME you can't go wrong with any of them really, except maybe the MG series. My .02, for what they're worth, would be to go with something that's all tube and high headroom (>50w) and pepper it up with your guitar of choice. But! That's not to say the MG doesn't sound great in a band setting - the video IMO suffers from guitarist syndrome (bass/drums soundtrack was the only accompaniment), where you think you're the most important thing in the room.
I'm not the stephen hawking of marshall amps but what I do know is that many of the amps that sounded so-so in the clip would sound excellent live with the right person playing. But such is the life we lead.
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
Great minds/ears hear the same qualities in good tone, right ?
Great minds/ears hear the same qualities in good tone, right ?
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
W O W . . . not much of a Marshall fan ?
W O W . . . not much of a Marshall fan ?
SirJackdeFuzz
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Mad-Max
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
To be honest, I LOVE Marshalls. I wish I owned one. I just think the demo could've been done better. Maybe through a 4x12 with a different choice of mics and mic placement.
Fair enough mate
To be honest, I LOVE Marshalls. I wish I owned one. I just think the demo could've been done better. Maybe through a 4x12 with a different choice of mics and mic placement.
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
Oh i hear what you're say'n !
I believe i would have EQ'ed most amps slightly differently too.
For instance, i would have EQ'ed the Vintage Modern slightly warmer (in the Mid Boost 'OFF' mode - especially in clip no. 3), and, and, and.
A test like this will always be controversial, as you just can not please everyone's taste in something like this.
Oh i hear what you're say'n !
I believe i would have EQ'ed most amps slightly differently too.
For instance, i would have EQ'ed the Vintage Modern slightly warmer (in the Mid Boost 'OFF' mode - especially in clip no. 3), and, and, and.
A test like this will always be controversial, as you just can not please everyone's taste in something like this.
Mad-Max
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Re: Marshall shoot out - which do you prefer ?
Agreed, but like I said, if it were me, I would've done it differently, but hey! If this works for other people, more power to them!
Agreed, but like I said, if it were me, I would've done it differently, but hey! If this works for other people, more power to them!
