New A Cab Day!

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

I need an intervention!

I need to learn to stay the heck off of Facebook marketplace! This morning I saw Marshall cabinet pop up... 1 day old... guy about an hour away listed it... Cheap!
I shared it with my other guitarist because he's been gassing for a Marshall cab for awhile now!
He couldn't get off work.
I knew it would be gone in a day or so, so I messaged the guy. He finally messaged me back around lunch time.

I texted my boss and my secretaries and told them I was having a "Musical emergency" that I would take the rest of the day off and see them tomorrow morning.
Guy only had one picture of it, no badge, no logo. It looked like a1960a to me... that's what I was hoping for anyhow.

I got up there and literally handed the dude the cash and loaded it as fast as I could. He said he just wanted rid of it because it was taking up too much space in his garage.

Turns out it was indeed a 2002 1960a loaded with new UK made T 75s! I'm a little bit excited!

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

You'll never guess what I paid the guy for this...
he said he bought it played it a bit then it's just sat in his garage for over 10 yrs

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

6 more cabinets and my garage will start to look like John Jolly owns it.:yourock:

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

I sacrificed the logo off of another cabinet to make the stack match... it was bothering my OCD just a bit.

 

[DankStar]

Wait a second, this isnt a duplicate thread! :bigeyes:

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

Wait a second, this isnt a duplicate thread! :bigeyes:

Ha ha nope!
just getting lucky here this past week!

 

[Top-L]

When people start unloading 412s, its true indication of strength of economy.

People like having 412s in their music room, but no one really needs one.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

When people start unloading 412s, its true indication of strength of economy.

People like having 412s in their music room, but no one really needs one.

Well, I've certainly not died from leaving mine behind, but after having one (and mic'ing it up), I'd personally not settle for a 2x12 personally if I were to take playing out seriously.

 

[Top-L]

Yeah, a 212 doesn't make sense.

A 412 rolls and gives you a place to put your amp head. And I do think a slant cab is better than getting one of those amp stands that tilts your cab back.

 

[Aceman]

2x12 is lighter, takes up less space, and makes more than enough noise.

But yeah - I'm always looking for a 4x12 for the music room.

 

[ehdwuld]

I have never owned a 4x12

I have 1x12 combos that are loud​​​ enough to gig with

I have 2x12 combos that are loud enough to gig with

i have a 1x12 cabinet and a 1x15 cabinet in my jam room now. That is too loud for that room

A 4x12 is huge
At a gig it would raise the amp up enough to see the knobs



No one meeds a giant 100 watt head to gig with
​​​​​you just want one to mess with the bass player

30 wats is plenty for most gigs

Mic and PA for anything bigger

Its just a whizzing contest

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

Today I pulled all the T75s out and put 2 in the B cab. Tightened-checked all the screws inside. I sprayed an entire can of black flex-seal inside it.

I traded 2 speakers for 2 Eminence Manowars, and I ordered 2 Swamp Thangs. This cabinet should really kick ass in another week!

​​​​​​

 

[Rex_Rocker]

No one meeds a giant 100 watt head to gig with
​​​​​you just want one to mess with the bass player

30 wats is plenty for most gigs

I don't agree.

But even if I don't really *need* one, I don't think it's wrong that I *want* one because I like how it sounds.

It's not about messing with the bass player. What percentage of the iconic recorded tones you hear is a 100W amp through a 4x12? Yet, if you know how to mix it, it doesn't mess with the bass player. At least for the style of music that *I* like and I'm sure the OP likes as well.

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

I would agree to some extent that certain people don't "need" a 4x12 to gig with..... I've been to some gigs where they don't even use amplifiers.... and in fact at practice I use a 2x12. It's loud enough to keep up with the other guitarist, drummer, and bassist and PA with my vocals... and it's a lot smaller.

I saw Ted Nugent rock and entire arena with a 30w Peavey Vyper mic'd to a PA..... it sounded fine. . . But Ted Nugent isn't Slayer.
Slayer would look stupid with practice amps on stage...

I am in a metal band. and we use 4x12s..that's what we do, we are loud and obnoxious. And nothing less will ever share a stage with my band. We are loud! Like loud loud. Not just barely loud where people can still chat while they listen to us in the background ha ha ha
​​​​​people should drop their drink and shove their fingers into their ears in shock and bewilderment when I hit that first chord to start the show.... YMMV.

 

[80's_Thrash_Metal]

Progression so far:

Backs off

Removed 2 G12 vintages to trade off.
replaced B cab spots with 2 T75s

Pulled other 2 75s out and flex-sealed the inside.
​​​​​​

 

[Demanic]

My front ported 2x12 hits above it's weight. 300W. Swamp Thang/Texas Heat.
View attachment AIL4fc-kYmSnLjOFARhIJIEeugJeQ5LG2fwQFB9sLBfBcRa_B2e88Yp4h2zH3TEtpuZKHfKFGsqK_EWFcDMTNjSelvBxbFFi4uPo

 

[ehdwuld]

Wonder what it would sound like with just two speakers catty corner to each other

That cab would be much lighter and still have the look you want

 

[Leon Of Late]

This may be a dumb question, but what does the Flex Seal do for the cabs? Like insulation? Does it tighten up the sound and projection?

I’ve owned a 4x12 before and am looking for one at the right price again, but have never heard of doing this.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

I would agree to some extent that certain people don't "need" a 4x12 to gig with..... I've been to some gigs where they don't even use amplifiers.... and in fact at practice I use a 2x12. It's loud enough to keep up with the other guitarist, drummer, and bassist and PA with my vocals... and it's a lot smaller.

I saw Ted Nugent rock and entire arena with a 30w Peavey Vyper mic'd to a PA..... it sounded fine. . . But Ted Nugent isn't Slayer.
Slayer would look stupid with practice amps on stage...

I am in a metal band. and we use 4x12s..that's what we do, we are loud and obnoxious. And nothing less will ever share a stage with my band. We are loud! Like loud loud. Not just barely loud where people can still chat while they listen to us in the background ha ha ha
​​​​​people should drop their drink and shove their fingers into their ears in shock and bewilderment when I hit that first chord to start the show.... YMMV.

Yeah, for me, a 4x12 is 95% about the recorded tone and 5% about looking cool live, LOL.

That being said, I never noticed a 4x12 being louder. At all. I've read about the coupling multi-speaker setups have, but I've also read that coupling only happens at low frequencies. So a 4x12 doesn't really sound louder, at least not IME. Just bigger. I'm sure a 2x12 with 2 V30's would even sound louder than a 4x12 with T-75's, even.

Another common misconception is that bigger cabs just sound bassier under the mic. They don't. They just push the low-end lower down the frequency range towards where it makes them sound BIG and heavy rather than stuffy or muddy. And on top of that, they extend the high-end higher up. So they just sound bigger and more open up top and down low. They just sound "better", IMO. Subjectically speaking, of course.

So yeah, of course no one "needs" one, but I mean, there are certanly reasons for someone to want to play through them.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

Wonder what it would sound like with just two speakers catty corner to each other

That cab would be much lighter and still have the look you want

Yeah, it would look cool and probably sound good as well, but it won't sound the same because you'd be changing the impedance of the cab as well as the internal geometry.