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I was surprised to see the KT66s in there also. Sounds really really cool. Its not handwired or PTP, but that's what set it against the handwired series. The Body and Detail knobs are probably reminicent of the tone knobs on the Dr. Z amps (truely voice the thickness of the tone instead of just act as a treble roll off). Speakers are good too. This amp takes a shot at the people who couldn''t afford the crazy Jimi Hendrix stack and really puts them on the board with the Fender Supersonic and all the other recent vintage-flavored tube amps out there. Even the LED lights sound awesome, purple, blue and white lights.

My main concerns are
1) will the supplied footswitch be the garbage that came with the TSLs and DSLs?
2) Will the construction and reliablilty be up to par? Hopefully it wont have the same issues that the TSLs had...
3) Price: Knowing Marshall, this amp will probably be on the expensive side for what it is, but who knows...

Now all they need is a low wattage maybe smaller in size head. And of course, you can throw a 1 x 12 combo in there too, but Im more for the heads. Thinking maybe 15 or 20 watts so you still have some thickness there, but even a 5 watt version would kick some serious ass (I dont evne think, or ever heard of Marshall making any 5 watt amps, they always had that big philosophy, but you would be surprised how many people would take a 5 watt beast Marshall for recording who cant crank up that Plexi too much or dont want to lug it around). Then again with the lower wattage you would have to deal with the trouble of finding a lower power tube instead of the KT66s and you will get a different tone. Just some ideas Im throwing out there...
 
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OK I think Marshall has finally come to the table with soemthing impressive and different. Everyone out there is a copy of a copy, and Marshall has now tried to set a new standard.

Curious how it sounds.

I might go and check the Jimi Hendrix stack someday. I am dying to hear these speakers. Marshall came correct with the HW series. THe use of G12C25's is fascinating. DYING to see how they differ from Greens.

I love that it has footswitchable features and voicing options for the pre-amp as to better fit HB's or single coils. The Marshall 6100 could do this.

I wonder if KT66's will have enough nasty mojo for modded sounds? Hot Rods tend to be better with other tube types like EL34's. Then again these are voiced for a different speaker type - and who knows? Maybe it will be a NEW sound and new era. I can only hope!

I can't say I like the look of the amp, but then again, it's meant to not look too old school.

I anticipate the next evolution in the series will be a 2 channel model, hopefully with solo boost. That will be very good for someone like me!

I admire the simplicity of the amp! I can tell you this, the last time Marshall got ambitious - the HW and 6100 series - they were winners. Pricing sucked - but the amps were great. The 6100 captured everything from Plexi to smoking blues to Hot Rod in Ch 2, with a great clean to boot, on ch 1. The compensation controls and MIDI were also VERRRRRY usable.

Yes this IS the Golden Age of Amps and Equipment. If only there were players to go with it.
 
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Olin, download the manual for this baby. I just read through it. It's neat to see how they say to use the guitar's volume and tone controls to accomplish your clean, rhythm and lead tones, and boost. That's pretty much how many players did it way back when.

I wouldn't mind seeing the addition of a second master volume (footswitchable) like what the MkIII had. That's one thing I love (among other things) about the MkIII, single channel, two master volumes, simple design.
 
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I wish it didn't have reverb- marshall reverb always sucks, in my opinion. But I guess I could just not use it:6:
 
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junior said:
I wish it didn't have reverb- marshall reverb always sucks, in my opinion. But I guess I could just not use it:6:
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From what I can tell in the manual, there is no reverb tank, it's from a chip. It should be better than it's been.
 
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Gunny47 said:
Now all they need is a low wattage maybe smaller in size head. And of course, you can throw a 1 x 12 combo in there too, but Im more for the heads. Thinking maybe 15 or 20 watts so you still have some thickness there, but even a 5 watt version would kick some serious ass.
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Oh yeah! How many of us could use a low watt Marshall! I for one could....even though I've got too many amps now, lol.

Gunny47 said:
(I dont evne think, or ever heard of Marshall making any 5 watt amps, they always had that big philosophy, but you would be surprised how many people would take a 5 watt beast Marshall for recording who cant crank up that Plexi too much or dont want to lug it around).
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They did make a coupla low wattage amps in the late 60s, early 70s. The new 18 watt amp is based on the old one which is quite rare and expensive, and they had to others that I know of. One is the Mercury, which I think was a 5 watt combo and the other was something like the Popular.
 
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I don't even want to speculate about it. If it's good, I'll wait awhile till they pop up used, then onto the pile it goes!! LOL

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I need an updated pic, since there's a Gibson Goldtone on there too. hehe The Goldtone is actually quite similar to this new Marshall because it's preamp is setup in the same way. A 2nd pre tube is turned on, when the boost is engaged, and then it's gain structure is increased. It also has reverb. This new Marshall shares some similarities with the Trace Elliot/Gibson Goldtone design.
 
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Now this really sounds interesting. Might go well as a combo beside the Edana. I could just ABY with the Edana and have a little more flexibilty that way without adding another head/cab to the deal. I do wish it was lower wattage though. 40 watts is all most folks would ever need out of KT-66 tubes. Of course, it is a master volume model so that's really a moot point I guess. Sounds like they are getting it right this time. Marshall must have recognized a trend lately towards more classic rock tone and this new creature should help fit that bill nicely if it delivers the tone that the ingredients promise.

Do you folks really think it will be only $1200? I expect the cost to be closer to $1500 or $2000 myself. Think about it. The JTM-45 reissue is $2000 and it's much simpler than this amp is.
 
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I just can't get excited about this thing...sorry. I think they guys at Marshall are trying to get what the people want but they keep missing the point.

I will try it out when they make it into stores and who knows I might like it, hell....I might love it but I just havce a feeling it'll be the same old crap...a new Marshall...
 
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If it is to replace the DSL/TSL, it cannot be priced near $2000. $1500 new, tops.
 
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But then the reissue is a point to point replica with higher grade parts isn't it?
 
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I don't think it's to replace anything but I could be wrong...

As for the JTM-45, no it's a PCB amp...the HW amps include the

1959HW=$2300
18watter=$2300 (combo)
20 watter=$1850 (head)
Hendrix Stack=$6400
40th anniversary stack (JTM45/100)=$7400

Those are the street prices I got on those HW amps...
 
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Forgive me, but I'm too tired to plow thru the PDF tonight. It sounds like it really does not have a clean channel, but more like a 2204 or Plexi where you can set the gain high or low, and then a channel more akin to the Silver Jubilee or maybe a 2205...but souped up a little...again with a seperate pre-amp gain.

So in theory you could set your "Channel 1" to slight breakup with guitar volume at full, then roll back to 7 for psuedo cleans, then kick in a high gain for harder rythym or leads on "channel 2", even though they aren't really seperate "channels"...am I reading that right?
 
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Guys, I reported this some days ago, with very little interest.
I think Marshall have dropped a major clanger here and missed the opportunity to wipe the floor with most of the major amp manufacturers.
It seems that they are intent in churning out 'vintage' products instead of putting out something new and exciting.
To me the new amps offer nothing over a Plexi with a pedal other than master volume and fx loop. Plus, Cornford already have the Ritchie Kotzen amp available which is a very similar specced amp.

This is a major dissapointment to me. If they'd offered a 2 channel amp with 2 master volumes, with the gain channel based on a modded JMP/800, then it would have been game over without a doubt.

I've heard the amp and didn't like it - fizzy and certainly not fat and the reverb blows. I'll stick with my Engl.:gurmpy:
 
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I reckon even if Marshall would do something new everyone would be like, "This isnt what a Marshall sounds like" so Marshall kind of dug a hole for themselves by making the best tone in the world all those years ago, if you know what a mean, everyone expects all of marshall's amps to sound like that, so when they make something new and different, its shunted because it doesnt sound like a Plexi.

cant help but feel sorry for Marshall..
 
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sorry but the new marshalls dont appeal to me. I'd rather buy another budda as they seem to do the marshall thing much better than marshall (did i also mention made in the US with lifetime warranty for a few $$ more??). maybe the superdrive 45:bowdown: that coincendentally uses KT66 power tubes, has a mid-boost, runs the '2nd' channel the same as the first except another preamp tube, and is based as a hot-rodded plexi.

marshall has realized that they have slacked off and that other brands are beating them at their own game. They should have come out with something different and exciting but instead are trying to reclaim something that is long gone. or maybe i am just too brand loyal......:smack: :smack:
 
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