P90 size humbucker.

BlueSnMettle

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Hey everybody,
Looking to slap some P90 sizes humbuckers in my Hamer. It's a '93 TV Special
(Pictured in my avatar). It has Seymour's P90 stacks in her now. Pups are too dark
for the one piece mahogany body. I want a PAF type sound. Play blues and classics rock.
Thanks y'all!

Peace,
Darrin
 
Re: P90 size humbucker.

Hey everybody,
Looking to slap some P90 sizes humbuckers in my Hamer. It's a '93 TV Special
(Pictured in my avatar). It has Seymour's P90 stacks in her now. Pups are too dark
for the one piece mahogany body. I want a PAF type sound. Play blues and classics rock.
Thanks y'all!

Peace,
Darrin

Some are called Minihumbuckers and have a different kind of fixation to the body. Real P90 sized humbucker are rare, i remember some type of DiMarzio brand.
 
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EMG makes some P90-sized humbuckers but it doesn't look like they make models with balanced output between the neck and bridge with PAF style, unless you go with ceramic (oxymoron, I know) in the bridge and Alnico 5 in the neck, possibly.

Something like P91HZ and P92HZ for passives or P60 and P60A for actives.

Just a thought. I'm neutral about EMG and have absolutely zero experience here.

The Seymour Duncan Custom Shop will probably be able to set you up.
 
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A P90 is gonna sound like a P90, not a PAF...

Seymour Minibuckers maybe?
 
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You could probably body mount some regular filtertron humbuckers in the p90 spot....I believe. Gretsch HS Filtertrons are fantastic pickups and not too pricey, they have a bit warmer treble response than Gibson style PAFs and they break up beautifully. I have a set in my SG, they are keepers....
 
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A P90 is gonna sound like a P90, not a PAF...

Seymour Minibuckers maybe?

Mr. Aceman, dude, I was asking about a "P90 sized hummer". I know Seymour, DiMarzio, and some others make them.
Looking for a little first hand knowledge.
 
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Mr. Aceman, dude, I was asking about a "P90 sized hummer". I know Seymour, DiMarzio, and some others make them.
Looking for a little first hand knowledge.

Well, I've here a few P90 sized DiMarzio's (Tone Zone, Super Dist, DLX) and they sound reasonably close to their full sized counterparts IME.

I've also a P90 sized Bill Lawrence but it doesn't count since it hasn't a PAFish tone - and because P90 sized BL have in fact the same coils than the "humbucker mount" version.

Among those that I've mentioned, the DiMarzio DLX might fulfil your needs if you're not too picky: despite of an high DCR, it has almost the same inductance than an average PAF clone and sounds close, albeit it's not exactly a "lively" pickup IMHO.

+1 about TV Jones, various mini-humbuckers and/or GFS P90 sized models: @ different prices, all of those lines include models able to sound reasonably close to an average PAF clone- hey, after all, even an Epiphone bridge minihumbucker reads 4,5H of inductance, exactly like a run of the mill PAF copy, and sounds accordingly, with just a slightly brighter tone due to the narrower magnetic aperture.

Don't discard the Guild "Starfire" mini-HB made in Asia for Fender: although the bridge version is an oddball, the NECK model reads the same than a low wound PAF clone (7,5k and 4,3H) and has the same kind of round tone than average ones (partly because of a "bad" cover causing eddy currents). A Starfire mini-HB could be mounted in a P90 cavity after a few minor mods.

For really good models with enough clarity and aliveness, P90 sized HB's can be built by various boutique winders - those of the Duncan Custom Shop AND a few others. Example: https://www.creamery-pickups.co.uk/p90-sized-humbucker.html

Good luck in your quest!
 
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I DO NOT recommend the Dimarzio Super Distortion soapbar pickups. They sound terrible and i cant wait to yank them from the les Paul i have them in. I want a hum-less stacked P90 but with some more output, so i may have to contact the SD Custom Shop as well. The ones they make on the production floor are too low output it seems.
 
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Mr. Aceman, dude, I was asking about a "P90 sized hummer". I know Seymour, DiMarzio, and some others make them.
Looking for a little first hand knowledge.

Let me rephrase; Exactly how "PAF" do you want it to be?

A Seymourized Minibucker is a little sportier output-wise than a 59, for example, and not necessarily tonally a 59, but it isn't that out of the ballpark either. Since you said PAF "type" sound and Blues and Classic Rock it might work just fine. Or not. How "PAF" type do you need? Like Seth PAF type, or would an A2P be PAF type?

DiMarzio does a lot more of these things than Duncan....
 
Re: P90 size humbucker.

Hey everybody,
Looking to slap some P90 sizes humbuckers in my Hamer. It's a '93 TV Special
(Pictured in my avatar). It has Seymour's P90 stacks in her now. Pups are too dark
for the one piece mahogany body. I want a PAF type sound. Play blues and classics rock.
Thanks y'all!

Peace,
Darrin

Are your stacks wired in series or parallel? I had the same issues in the neck position of a Tele several years ago, and re-wiring the P-90 stack in parallel was a huge help. In terms of output it ended up about the same as a vintage P-90 though I may have had to run it slightly closer to the strings.
 
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Rio Grande makes a couple as well, but the stock options are hotter than PAFs
 
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OK, I'm having a bit of a problem understanding what you want. The P-90s sound "too dark" so you want to go with humbuckers??!!!

Since your p-90s are stacks, I'd first try what dystrust suggested and wire them in parallel. Or go to a classic/lower output regular P-90 (instead of the stack). My next choice would be to go with a mini humbucker...again stay with a low output mini. Even a mini is "darker" than a P-90, but there are some bright very nice sounding ones available that will give you hum cancellation (I'm assuming that's what you want since you already have stacks in there now).

But before you spend money, try the suggested parallel wiring. You might just be surprised at what you've already got.
 
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OK, I'm having a bit of a problem understanding what you want. The P-90s sound "too dark" so you want to go with humbuckers??!!!

Since your p-90s are stacks, I'd first try what dystrust suggested and wire them in parallel.

Agreed with parallel since its free....but I'm a mini hum nut. Articulate, tight great for any low or mid gain tones.
 
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