weisserj
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
i like that...
What do you say about a BroBucker round 2 (in Strat size though)?
i like that...
SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
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Mr 9finger
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
Lil Diablo aka Lil Devil! ahahahahahahahahahahaha
Me thinks a lil bucker version of the full size CS pickups would be cool. Lil 78, Lil RTM, Lil Bro, etc.....Lil Devil
Lil Diablo aka Lil Devil! ahahahahahahahahahahaha
Me thinks a lil bucker version of the full size CS pickups would be cool. Lil 78, Lil RTM, Lil Bro, etc.....Lil Devil
Zhangliqun
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For me, I'm a bit skeptical of anything noiseless sounding like a P90. So far NOBODY even makes a "normal" P90 stack that sounds like a P90. Such a tough thing to do that even Kinman hasn't come out with one yet. And then to make one Strat-size? I'm not saying don't try it, I'm all for experimentation. But I figured it would be such a longshot.
But give up the noiseless angle and I think some very P90-ish tones are possible in a Strat sized pu.
For me, I'm a bit skeptical of anything noiseless sounding like a P90. So far NOBODY even makes a "normal" P90 stack that sounds like a P90. Such a tough thing to do that even Kinman hasn't come out with one yet. And then to make one Strat-size? I'm not saying don't try it, I'm all for experimentation. But I figured it would be such a longshot.
But give up the noiseless angle and I think some very P90-ish tones are possible in a Strat sized pu.
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JohnnyGuitar
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I'm always for ordering an existing pickup from the Custom Shop line - maybe with a few tweaks to our specs.
The Lil' Pearly Gates only with A2 magnets (like his bigger brother), Stack 5-2 for Strat or for a Tele...
Making a Custom Shop take on one of the existing regular pickups could also be cool - Stack Quarter Pounder, higher output take on the the new Livewire Classics (less output then the Blackouts, but hotter for leads and with the pin option for cleans...)... hmmm... maybe even an active pickup for a Telecaster...
I'm always for ordering an existing pickup from the Custom Shop line - maybe with a few tweaks to our specs.
The Lil' Pearly Gates only with A2 magnets (like his bigger brother), Stack 5-2 for Strat or for a Tele...
Making a Custom Shop take on one of the existing regular pickups could also be cool - Stack Quarter Pounder, higher output take on the the new Livewire Classics (less output then the Blackouts, but hotter for leads and with the pin option for cleans...)... hmmm... maybe even an active pickup for a Telecaster...
KeeperOS
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Sounds great, doesn't it? But here's the problem, each of us listed at least half a dozen pickups, how are we supposed to pick just one and much more, all of us agree on that one...
Huh...
All I know is I DON'T want to make my Strat's neck sound any less Stratty and more like a HB (in fact that was my only gripe with the P-90 idea in the first place but I though, P-90, don't have one, might be kinda cool).
Sounds great, doesn't it? But here's the problem, each of us listed at least half a dozen pickups, how are we supposed to pick just one and much more, all of us agree on that one...
Huh...
All I know is I DON'T want to make my Strat's neck sound any less Stratty and more like a HB (in fact that was my only gripe with the P-90 idea in the first place but I though, P-90, don't have one, might be kinda cool).
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jimijames
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Does this mean we're going to do a do-over? Start with a clean slate, and... MORE POLLS? But I guess that's the price of progress, so to speak.
We could do a new one for determining the new direction:
- Lil something that is not already available (diff magnet, diff wind, etc.)
- Neck Single (of our own design)
- Bridge Single (")
- Already Available custom shop single
- Another bridge humbucker
Also, i think we should back off on the noiseless aspect, just for the fact that it most people who wanted noiseless will settle for 60 cycle hum (myself included), while the people who wanted it true single are militantly against any type of hum cancelling in a single, so I feel fewer people would be alienated by a true single coil.
Does this mean we're going to do a do-over? Start with a clean slate, and... MORE POLLS? But I guess that's the price of progress, so to speak.
We could do a new one for determining the new direction:
- Lil something that is not already available (diff magnet, diff wind, etc.)
- Neck Single (of our own design)
- Bridge Single (")
- Already Available custom shop single
- Another bridge humbucker
Also, i think we should back off on the noiseless aspect, just for the fact that it most people who wanted noiseless will settle for 60 cycle hum (myself included), while the people who wanted it true single are militantly against any type of hum cancelling in a single, so I feel fewer people would be alienated by a true single coil.
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KeeperOS
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I gotta tell you guys, I DON'T like where this is going...
I also dislike the idea of widening our specs yet even more (go back to looking for a bridge humbucker? no way).
OK, I think we need of a way to make this as fast, as efficient and as collective as possible.
Simple yes or no:
Do you wanna go with our own variation of an already existent SD (CS or not) pickup (always in Strat SC form factor) or do you wanna give it a 2nd go with a design of our own?
(Or, go on with what we've got which I gotta tell you, doesn't seem as possible right now...)
I gotta tell you guys, I DON'T like where this is going...
I also dislike the idea of widening our specs yet even more (go back to looking for a bridge humbucker? no way).
OK, I think we need of a way to make this as fast, as efficient and as collective as possible.
Simple yes or no:
Do you wanna go with our own variation of an already existent SD (CS or not) pickup (always in Strat SC form factor) or do you wanna give it a 2nd go with a design of our own?
(Or, go on with what we've got which I gotta tell you, doesn't seem as possible right now...)
J Moose
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I don't care about specs... and have little idea as to what any of 'em actually mean... because I'm don't make pickups.
I only care about what it sounds like.
Some kinda hopped up Strat/Tele bridge pickup would be great...
Something hotter and thicker then "vintage" but not blown out like one of the rails...
Needs to balance with a "stock" output set of single coils.
There's IMO... a real need for that kinda thing.
I've wished it existed for at least 10 years now as an over the counter solution... and I've been through a LOT of pickups...
It's not out there.
I don't care about specs... and have little idea as to what any of 'em actually mean... because I'm don't make pickups.
I only care about what it sounds like.
Some kinda hopped up Strat/Tele bridge pickup would be great...
Something hotter and thicker then "vintage" but not blown out like one of the rails...
Needs to balance with a "stock" output set of single coils.
There's IMO... a real need for that kinda thing.
I've wished it existed for at least 10 years now as an over the counter solution... and I've been through a LOT of pickups...
It's not out there.
Mr 9finger
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J, you, me, or anyone else is not going to convince the kids in the hall to do a bridge pickup. Even though that's always been the weakest link on a Strat. Everyone here seems to absolutely set on a neck pickup, which IMO, Seymour and every other brand has more than a sufficient selection of neck singles.
The primary problem of this whole thing is this. If I had to take a guess, the majority of the users on this board use humbuckers. I'd say it would be a 75/25 split. Getting that 25% of the users to agree on something and garner enough interest to get a decent discount is, as you can already see, going to be rough. I don't think it's going to matter how many polls go up, there's just too much indecision/different perspectives.
At this point, I personally don't give 2RA's what is. If the final product sounds like it's going to fit something I'd use, GREAT!, I'll buy 1 or 2. But as of this post I'm going to keep my mouf shut. Every time I put up an idea, I get cyber slapped and hate PM's saying that I'm trying to undermine the polls and all I really want is a humbucker etc....Some people just take this crap way to personally. It's just a pickup. If ya can't get it your way via this method, pony up and call the CS yourself. No need to get nasty via PM.
J, you, me, or anyone else is not going to convince the kids in the hall to do a bridge pickup. Even though that's always been the weakest link on a Strat. Everyone here seems to absolutely set on a neck pickup, which IMO, Seymour and every other brand has more than a sufficient selection of neck singles.
The primary problem of this whole thing is this. If I had to take a guess, the majority of the users on this board use humbuckers. I'd say it would be a 75/25 split. Getting that 25% of the users to agree on something and garner enough interest to get a decent discount is, as you can already see, going to be rough. I don't think it's going to matter how many polls go up, there's just too much indecision/different perspectives.
At this point, I personally don't give 2RA's what is. If the final product sounds like it's going to fit something I'd use, GREAT!, I'll buy 1 or 2. But as of this post I'm going to keep my mouf shut. Every time I put up an idea, I get cyber slapped and hate PM's saying that I'm trying to undermine the polls and all I really want is a humbucker etc....Some people just take this crap way to personally. It's just a pickup. If ya can't get it your way via this method, pony up and call the CS yourself. No need to get nasty via PM.
KeeperOS
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Re: SDUGF Pickup - What's Next?
9finger, I think part of the reason so many want a neck pu is that most of us (myself included) use single coils in HSS scenarios (i.e. have accepted the fact that a SC is a hard fit for the bridge
)
As for the hate-Mail/PM, I'm totally against it. Wanna tell your opinion? Go right ahead.
You don't agree with another person's opinion? Say so. But in a polite and respectful manner. "Cyber slapping" anyone certainly isn't gonna get your choice any more popular...
9finger, I think part of the reason so many want a neck pu is that most of us (myself included) use single coils in HSS scenarios (i.e. have accepted the fact that a SC is a hard fit for the bridge
)As for the hate-Mail/PM, I'm totally against it. Wanna tell your opinion? Go right ahead.
You don't agree with another person's opinion? Say so. But in a polite and respectful manner. "Cyber slapping" anyone certainly isn't gonna get your choice any more popular...
Personally, that wouldn't be my first choice but like you said, I could get behind that
jimijames
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+1 as long as it didn't get to muddy in the neck at full output. I actually like this idea more than what we originally came up with. So much for me shutting up:smack:
+1 as long as it didn't get to muddy in the neck at full output. I actually like this idea more than what we originally came up with. So much for me shutting up:smack:
J Moose
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Groovy.
And you know... if it's wound right, in a neck slot it'd probably match up really well with the high output 'buckers like a JB or distortion.
I haven't owned an HSS guitar in eons... could never get the balance right. JB with SSL1's... I'd go to the singles & the output dropped off the planet. Eventually had a '59 and QP's... much better balance, but I lost the tone...
Groovy.
And you know... if it's wound right, in a neck slot it'd probably match up really well with the high output 'buckers like a JB or distortion.
I haven't owned an HSS guitar in eons... could never get the balance right. JB with SSL1's... I'd go to the singles & the output dropped off the planet. Eventually had a '59 and QP's... much better balance, but I lost the tone...
uOpt
Something Cool
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I was on vacation.
I happen to be interested in a P90 sounding strat sized pickup, but to be honest some kind of bridge humbucker would probably sell better with the average forumite.
ETA: and obviously the mixed-wire tapped Strat pickup as Jeremy indicates.
I was on vacation.
I happen to be interested in a P90 sounding strat sized pickup, but to be honest some kind of bridge humbucker would probably sell better with the average forumite.
ETA: and obviously the mixed-wire tapped Strat pickup as Jeremy indicates.
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dr.barlo
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KeeperOS
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Hope we can still make this. My Strat needs a new neck pu (current Fast Track 1 probably is a better fit in the middle after all...)
Yeah, that's what this pickup was supposed to cure
Hope we can still make this. My Strat needs a new neck pu (current Fast Track 1 probably is a better fit in the middle after all...)
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What were the final tallies for the Brobucker and the Crazy 8??
As far as this pickup... My thoughts.. First, I didnt realize there was a serious poll going on for the next one.. I thought it was being kicked around or What if??... MY Bad...
Now, I will say that Im not a P90 fan. Im not much of a single coil fan, but I have a couple of guitars that could use some tasty singles in the neck and middle. So, Id like to see some real soulful singles come out, but not P90 voiced.
And lastly, Im in a bit of a financial crunch. Going with single coils, would pretty much require I buy at least 2 (neck and middle) . Whereas a humbucker, I can go with one.
Id also like to see a really toneful neck bucker come out...
What were the final tallies for the Brobucker and the Crazy 8??
As far as this pickup... My thoughts.. First, I didnt realize there was a serious poll going on for the next one.. I thought it was being kicked around or What if??... MY Bad...
Now, I will say that Im not a P90 fan. Im not much of a single coil fan, but I have a couple of guitars that could use some tasty singles in the neck and middle. So, Id like to see some real soulful singles come out, but not P90 voiced.
And lastly, Im in a bit of a financial crunch. Going with single coils, would pretty much require I buy at least 2 (neck and middle) . Whereas a humbucker, I can go with one.
Id also like to see a really toneful neck bucker come out...
jimijames
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Try a very slightly degaussed A3 in a PGn. It's why I know I'll never need wonder about a neck bucker ever again in my les paul. In series, imagine a big warm tone with that 'chew' that you get with the '78 (or in my case the VHPAF w/ A2), but more defined on the low notes than A2, and just as sweet in the upper register, but with more 'chime' and pretty great note seperation on chords. I still need to try a jazz bridge in the neck though...
edit: Sorry, I know nothing about what guitars you play or what style you play in, I just like this pickup so much I'd though I'd share.
Try a very slightly degaussed A3 in a PGn. It's why I know I'll never need wonder about a neck bucker ever again in my les paul. In series, imagine a big warm tone with that 'chew' that you get with the '78 (or in my case the VHPAF w/ A2), but more defined on the low notes than A2, and just as sweet in the upper register, but with more 'chime' and pretty great note seperation on chords. I still need to try a jazz bridge in the neck though...
edit: Sorry, I know nothing about what guitars you play or what style you play in, I just like this pickup so much I'd though I'd share.
