Solid state power and preamp pedals

[metalmachine1983]

I've been using a Quilter overdrive 200 as a poweramp and I'm running a THISHEAVYEARTH Fleshrot vs2 into the effects return. I've been getting great results. Tech has really came a long ways and I'm just curious if anyone else is really into the preamp pedal thing?

 

[Mincer]

I have tried a Palladium into a PowerStage 700 and it sounded as good (and loud) as any amp I've ever tried.

 

[metalmachine1983]

Mincer I've wanted to try a palladium. For high gain metal I've really been happier this way instead of tubes.

 

[Mincer]

Mincer I've wanted to try a palladium. For high gain metal I've really been happier this way instead of tubes.

I don't know if they are currently being made, but if you get a chance, try one. I tried one through a good old Marshall 4x12 and it was huge.

 

[Masta' C]

I'm just going to drop this here....

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Seymour-Duncan/Palladium-Effect-Pedal-119609817.gc

 

[8eezrule]

Every once and a while I'll run my mt2 through the efx loop. Sounds way better and bigger. But only when I'm in a post 80s Pantera kinda mood.

 

[Chistopher]

It's 2024 and people are still using preamps? Boss IR-200 and an H90 is really all you need to get any amp, cab, and effect these days.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

It's 2024 and people are still using preamps? Boss IR-200 and an H90 is really all you need to get any amp, cab, and effect these days.

The H90 has amp models?

 

[marcello252]

It's 2024 and people are still using preamps? Boss IR-200 and an H90 is really all you need to get any amp, cab, and effect these days.

....all I really need is my 12w princeton, it doesn't even have a mid control...

 

[Aceman]

I haven't, but I would be if I needed to. Or wanted to. Good sound is good sound.

All the Tube snobs were listening to digital 10 years before they even knew there was digital. And loving it.

 

[8eezrule]

My line6 spider jam has some good presets in it, it has more bad ones than good, but thats par for the course cause I can dial in tones that I like and save them. Great little practice amp, and at 75w I have gigged with it in a pinch. I prefer real tube tones, but digital ain't bad, at a show I promise you no one there will tell the difference.

 

[Chistopher]

The H90 has amp models?

That's what the IR-200 is for, or now their new mini version the IR-2.

I suppose you could get both from one platform with the Line6 Helix, but the effects aren't as varied.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

That's what the IR-200 is for, or now their new mini version the IR-2.

I suppose you could get both from one platform with the Line6 Helix, but the effects aren't as varied.

Does the IR-200 have the same models as the GT-1000? If so, I'd much rather have the models of the Helix, personally.

I'd much rather have better amp models than better effects.

 

[Securb]

All the Tube snobs were listening to digital 10 years before they even knew there was digital. And loving it.

It is funny when you think about it. People buying piles of analog gear to reproduce a digital signal.

 

[marcello252]

I'm not a tube snob, but I need to narrow the choices I have in front of me, because I'm very dispersive, when I have dozen of opportunities I end up spending all my time trying to decide what to choose, that brings me to more classic chain, single pedals, one simple Amp, no simulation, just my sound, and even so I'm overwhelmed by the comvinations

 

[metalmachine1983]

I wanted a vh140c but I'm not paying $$$$ on the used market. I'm running a THISHEAVYEARTH Fleshrot vs2 into the power section of a Quilter overdrive 200 and I absolutely love it. Thats why I am doing it. I'm really digging the setup too. I have a 5150 sitting on my cab too. The fleshrot into the quilter is on par for sound quality. 2 different tones though.

 

[misterwhizzy]

I had been a tube snob for as long as I have been playing guitar until I got a Revv G4. I'm blown away by how well it responds to picking dynamics, volume knob, etc. I use a Friedman Smallbox pedal for my hotrodded vintage tones, and it has a similar feel, but I'm sending that into the frontend of my amp, whereas the G4 goes into the effects loop return, so I can't say that it qualifies 100%. So as far as preamps go, solid-state is a completely suitable replacement.

I don't have nearly as much experience with solid-state power amps, and it's probably because my short time with an EHX 44 Magnum soured me. But I'm pretty sure newer items could compete with the tube-based power amps I've used. The Blackstar Amped pedals look awesome, and I'm sure I could get through a small gig with an Orange Terror Stamp.

To answer the original question, I think we're there with convincing solid-state analog technology.

 

[Rex_Rocker]

I think solid state technology has been there for quite a while. Many memorable solid state (or mostly solid state) tones have been on records for quite a while. Especially if look into the heavier genres. I think the problem is that solid state amps have been built for a budget ever since they were introduced. And the ones that weren't (like the Roland Jazz Chorus) became iconic.

I don't think the current wave of solid state pedals offer anything new other than the same old technology applied to newer designs. The difference now is that solid state preamp pedals are kind of expensive, and even if they're not, manufacturing those types of circuits has become cheaper with newer production methods and parts availability.

I don't know if they started the whole solid state pedal preamp craze, but AMT comes to mind as some of the "pioneers" at least as far as the current trend goes.

I think the fact that many perceive that solid state is "there" right now is that it's got a lot of publicity lately with the bigger names, especially on YouTube, like Orange, Revv, Friedman, Blackstar, etc. Not to say those are bad by any means (I'd love a Revv G4 and an Orange Pedal Baby rig), but sometimes I feel the hype is kind of unfair in making them seem like they're the first and only solid state designs to ever sound good.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Honestly, what do you miss vs. tube amps?

 

[Chistopher]

Does the IR-200 have the same models as the GT-1000? If so, I'd much rather have the models of the Helix, personally.

I'd much rather have better amp models than better effects.

I think it does, but the IR-200 has more because Boss doesn't really update their products.