Solid state power and preamp pedals

[DankStar]

I've said that I will buy and play the first modeller that has the following models in it:

Marshall Super Lead
Soldano SLO-100
Rockman
ADA MP-1

It needs to be able not only to get close to these sounds, but to acknowledge the models – the question is partially political (in a very extended sense) for me.

those are all probably in the quad cortex as user profiles (or whatever they call them). I messed with some ADA mp-1 user profiles (a hot rodded marshall type setting) on one and it was amazing. Sounded better than the unit's own jcm800 model to me.

 

[DankStar]

I finally verified if my Alto 8” powered speaker works in a band situation, and the answer is no. Other guitarist had a 20 watt tube head into a nice 12” cab. I had my modeler into the 2,000 watt Alto on a stand. While it sounded good by itself and was pretty loud, it just didn’t mesh well with a real guitar cab and got buried. What I thought would be the ideal little digital rig turned out to not be (although for practice at home, sure).

While I may still use the modeler in some fashion live, it’s going to have to go through a good power amp then a real guitar cab. My Legacy cab needs to get off the sidelines anyway.

 

[Sirion]

those are all probably in the quad cortex as user profiles (or whatever they call them). I messed with some ADA mp-1 user profiles (a hot rodded marshall type setting) on one and it was amazing. Sounded better than the unit's own jcm800 model to me.

Oh yes, you can get approximations of them on a ton of systems, and people have repeatedly tried selling me the Kemper on it. My beef is that I want the creators to acknowledge the role these models have played in guitar history by actually adding them to the units themselves, rather than leaving it to users to approximate them through other models. That is what I meant by it being a political matter.

 

[DankStar]

Oh yes, you can get approximations of them on a ton of systems, and people have repeatedly tried selling me the Kemper on it. My beef is that I want the creators to acknowledge the role these models have played in guitar history by actually adding them to the units themselves, rather than leaving it to users to approximate them through other models. That is what I meant by it being a political matter.

ah, I see. Makes sense

 

[El Dunco]

I've said that I will buy and play the first modeller that has the following models in it:

Marshall Super Lead
Soldano SLO-100
Rockman
ADA MP-1

It needs to be able not only to get close to these sounds, but to acknowledge the models – the question is partially political (in a very extended sense) for me.

I feel you. Some of my favourite secret-sauce amps are so obscure there’s no way it would ever occur to a company to include an accurate model of it it any of their products.

 

[Securb]

Oh yes, you can get approximations of them on a ton of systems, and people have repeatedly tried selling me the Kemper on it. My beef is that I want the creators to acknowledge the role these models have played in guitar history by actually adding them to the units themselves, rather than leaving it to users to approximate them through other models. That is what I meant by it being a political matter.

A lot of that has to do with trademarks and patents. I am sure there are many classic amps many of these builders would like to recognize but simply can not. This is the big reason why we get descriptors like British, California, American, and Plaid. For some reason, a lot of these companies have been licensing their speakers and speaker cab names and sound profiles to the IR companies, I would hope the amps would be coming next.

 

[DankStar]

I finally verified if my Alto 8” powered speaker works in a band situation, and the answer is no. Other guitarist had a 20 watt tube head into a nice 12” cab. I had my modeler into the 2,000 watt Alto on a stand. While it sounded good by itself and was pretty loud, it just didn’t mesh well with a real guitar cab and got buried. What I thought would be the ideal little digital rig turned out to not be (although for practice at home, sure).

While I may still use the modeler in some fashion live, it’s going to have to go through a good power amp then a real guitar cab. My Legacy cab needs to get off the sidelines anyway.

update -

since it was raining and I was a little beat from seeing bruce dickinson sat night, I took my modeler and alto powered speaker to band practice today and this time I went out the line out instead of the XLR of the modeler and used the line (not mic) setting on the alto. while I had to crank up my modeler pretty far compared to say headphone usage, once I got the volume up on the alto (it was up there pretty far too, like 3/4) it wasn't too bad actually. much better than before. In a pinch this setup does work with a drummer and others playing "real" amps. I'm not sure where they are getting 2,000 watts from that seems a little overblown but still.

 

[Mincer]

Yeah, I think the Altos are a little off on what constitutes 2000 watts. Maybe the highest millisecond peaks at very specific frequencies. But I've heard 50 watt amps that are 10 times louder than Alto fr/fr speakers.

 

[DankStar]

Yeah, I think the Altos are a little off on what constitutes 2000 watts. Maybe the highest millisecond peaks at very specific frequencies. But I've heard 50 watt amps that are 10 times louder than Alto fr/fr speakers.

very strange. I'd like to try the 10s or 12s someday. Love the portability of the 8s though

 

[El Dunco]

Yeah, I think the Altos are a little off on what constitutes 2000 watts. Maybe the highest millisecond peaks at very specific frequencies. But I've heard 50 watt amps that are 10 times louder than Alto fr/fr speakers.

Peak, not RMS.

 

[Mincer]

Peak, not RMS.

Right, and only then, for a very short amount of time.