Tele wiring question

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Think that is so, but what's a crackup is with most Tele Neck and reg. Tone Cap ~ like Ya cant get it Bassy enough : )
 
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It never sounded like a bass, and I don't think anyone ever used one as a bass. Leo Fender had some bad ideas, too.
 
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It never sounded like a bass, and I don't think anyone ever used one as a bass. Leo Fender had some bad ideas, too.

I don't just what my friend told me . Honestly I think it makes it sound muddy my 52 reissue was wired like that. Was stupid to let it go . Was an 82 mij 52 ri


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I hardwired a tone cap across the output jack of one of my jazz guitars in addition to the master tone. I didn't use a 47nf tho, I used a 150pf to have it warm but get the detail of the roundwounds with the tone pot wide open. Then I have a 100nf cap on the master tone to get it as bassy as I want.
 
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It never sounded like a bass, and I don't think anyone ever used one as a bass. Leo Fender had some bad ideas, too.

Country guys used to use that position to double the bass line and give it some definition. Lots of bass players were still using uprights back then remember.
 
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I could see that, although years later a Bass VI was a better choice for that. I still think the Tele neck pickup, as originally wired, is useless for today's music.
 
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I wire my Tele very simply. Only one cap: the cap on the tone control.

I connect the tone pot directly to the bridge pickup so that it only loads the bridge pickup.

The tone control only works when the bridge pickup is chosen or when the bridge and neck are combined.

When the neck pickup is chosen by itself it has no tone control and the sound is a little bit brighter and clearer...less muted.

That's for my '54.

I have a Strat neck pickup in my 90's Tele Custom.
 
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What's Unfortunate for dotsdad is that this was just a Simple Cap / Wiring question

It never sounded like a bass, and I don't think anyone ever used one as a bass. Leo Fender had some bad ideas, too.

I would use My tele in Bass simulator mode for esperimentation on my Digital studio and it worked so well I have never gone back and put a track in from my Full size Bass . ( Original song STB )


I could see that, although years later a Bass VI was a better choice for that. I still think the Tele neck pickup, as originally wired, is useless for today's music.

Same song ( Original STB ) I use the Seymour Vintage 50's in Neck ad recorded 6 string with All 3 positions / middle position and Bridge for the J -bass type Runs ) ~ If Blues is still Todays Music your theory is out the Window , Sorry ( unless Blues is Not Todays music ) This song is as Valid for today as the Dylan ripoff of Delta Dawn chops on forever young by East on TV commercial . Mincer , for a Peer - U suprise me at times with the blanket statements i would expect from a younger guitarist . BTW ~ I can probably play about Anything I've Ever heard of from Today's Music ( Including most Metal in Drop tune to Country Chops , for the most part ( if not , give me a couple weeks - I'll pick it out Tight : )
 
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I could see that, although years later a Bass VI was a better choice for that. I still think the Tele neck pickup, as originally wired, is useless for today's music.

OK , here's part of the Problem ~ We probably need a Whole nother Thread for this Term . How does one Define Today's Music ? I'm a Guitarist , Writer, Producer, etc. But I dont buy GaGa , Ariana Grande or Any such Modern Dance / Disco Bar type of music. With the Movie people ruining the Music business , which part of the Pedaled so called music is Today's Music ? i'm kinda guitarded so could Someone Explain Today's Music or start a Thread for it ?
 
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I wire my Tele very simply. Only one cap: the cap on the tone control.

I connect the tone pot directly to the bridge pickup so that it only loads the bridge pickup.

The tone control only works when the bridge pickup is chosen or when the bridge and neck are combined.

When the neck pickup is chosen by itself it has no tone control and the sound is a little bit brighter and clearer...less muted.

That's a great idea! Right now I have a TBX to brighten the neck and daeken thr bridge. Your way seems easier. Darken the bridge a bit, take the last d off the neck, and tweak the treble on the amp. Time to break out the soldering iron,.,
 
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That's a great idea! Right now I have a TBX to brighten the neck and daeken thr bridge. Your way seems easier. Darken the bridge a bit, take the last d off the neck, and tweak the treble on the amp. Time to break out the soldering iron,.,

Thanks. I connect the tone control to the same terminal on the switch that the hot from the bridge pickup is soldered to.

One nice thing is that if you like to roll back the treble a bit on the guitar when you use the bridge pickup, you can leave the tone control set to a "sweet spot" and it won't affect the neck pickup sound.
 
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OK , here's part of the Problem ~ We probably need a Whole nother Thread for this Term . How does one Define Today's Music ? I'm a Guitarist , Writer, Producer, etc. But I dont buy GaGa , Ariana Grande or Any such Modern Dance / Disco Bar type of music. With the Movie people ruining the Music business , which part of the Pedaled so called music is Today's Music ? i'm kinda guitarded so could Someone Explain Today's Music or start a Thread for it ?

I mean today's music that is popular with non-guitarists. I don't consider modern blues 'today's music'. I barely consider modern blues music, though, unless it is music for a beer commercial. I haven't heard any sort of innovation in years. But back to your other statement- are you saying that you used a Tele with 2 tone caps (as originally wired) as the sole source of bass on a modern recording with no pitch transposing? The tone is certainly bassier (read: muddy) but it is in no way a bass as it is still the wrong octave.
 
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I'll answer in backwards order ~ the Tele that Lentz + I built was standard 1 Cap config ( that I recorded with auto Pitch shift with machine for Correct key/pitch for bass lines ) if You heard the song it could be perceived as a J-bass, Ricky or about any other. Considering that there Various tribes around the Globe such as New Guinea, New Zealand, Africa , North america + so forth ( Who's music would not be recognized by mainstream ) ~ I believe there was only 1 type of " Todays music " in the 1770's . For example Haydn and Mozart would most likely be considered by many to be the " Music of the Time ". as You come further Recent in History to now , I dont believe there is ANY " Music of the Time " or "Todays Music " . Todays music is Whatever works ~ I know from writing jingles and such , There is too much Media about Everything All the time . Jimi Hendrix was Not Today's Music in 1969 ( although i bought Anything i could of Him ) because my mom was diggin' Elvis or Gershwin, still . But the Neighbors liked Dino and the RatPackers but my Grandma liked Gospel and Americana Folk while my grandpa listened and taught me Mozart and Sons of the Pioneers . So, Who or What was " Todays Music " in the 60's or Currently , Pray tell ?

BTW , IMHO ~ the Fans, Consumers and Supporters of Whatever Period music has never consisted primarily of Guitar players, Lute players , Harpsichordists or pianists at Infinitum : )
 
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Hey Lew! I wired it up your way tonight with the tone only on the bridge pickup. it sounds great! Thanks dood!!! :headbang:
 
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I'll answer in backwards order ~ the Tele that Lentz + I built was standard 1 Cap config ( that I recorded with auto Pitch shift with machine for Correct key/pitch for bass lines ) if You heard the song it could be perceived as a J-bass, Ricky or about any other. Considering that there Various tribes around the Globe such as New Guinea, New Zealand, Africa , North america + so forth ( Who's music would not be recognized by mainstream ) ~ I believe there was only 1 type of " Todays music " in the 1770's . For example Haydn and Mozart would most likely be considered by many to be the " Music of the Time ". as You come further Recent in History to now , I dont believe there is ANY " Music of the Time " or "Todays Music " . Todays music is Whatever works ~ I know from writing jingles and such , There is too much Media about Everything All the time . Jimi Hendrix was Not Today's Music in 1969 ( although i bought Anything i could of Him ) because my mom was diggin' Elvis or Gershwin, still . But the Neighbors liked Dino and the RatPackers but my Grandma liked Gospel and Americana Folk while my grandpa listened and taught me Mozart and Sons of the Pioneers . So, Who or What was " Todays Music " in the 60's or Currently , Pray tell ?

BTW , IMHO ~ the Fans, Consumers and Supporters of Whatever Period music has never consisted primarily of Guitar players, Lute players , Harpsichordists or pianists at Infinitum : )

OK, you pitch shifted the Tele. I've done that too, and you are right, it does work really well. However, in 1952, they didn't have the technology. A stock-wired early Tele could in no way pass for a bass in a band (without modern pitch manipulation), that is all I am saying...in ANY music.
 
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