Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
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CaughtLikeFire
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Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
has a Floyd and a swiss-cheese slab of mahogany . . . er . . . I mean "weight relieved" body?
wonder how much of that nice fat LP tone is left :smack:
the Carvin CT single cut has a pretty nice contoured heel (not quite as sculpted as this one put pretty low profile). the electronics aren't quite up to par but you can get those for half the price of that LP. And you can choose a Floyd or Wilkinson if you really want to.
has a Floyd and a swiss-cheese slab of mahogany . . . er . . . I mean "weight relieved" body?
wonder how much of that nice fat LP tone is left :smack:
the Carvin CT single cut has a pretty nice contoured heel (not quite as sculpted as this one put pretty low profile). the electronics aren't quite up to par but you can get those for half the price of that LP. And you can choose a Floyd or Wilkinson if you really want to.
FretFire
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jmh151
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Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
I like it alot, but realisically, it should be only $200 more than a comparable Standard- not in the $3400 range. The belly carve and contoured neck joint are likely CNC done and don't require any more man hours, as with the routing for the Floyd and nut. So you're left with the increase in price for the Floyd.
I saw one in person, it was beautuful, I drooled, but $3400 is just ridiculous.
I like it alot, but realisically, it should be only $200 more than a comparable Standard- not in the $3400 range. The belly carve and contoured neck joint are likely CNC done and don't require any more man hours, as with the routing for the Floyd and nut. So you're left with the increase in price for the Floyd.
I saw one in person, it was beautuful, I drooled, but $3400 is just ridiculous.
hanumanlangur
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Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Gibson's innovation: throw a pre-existing trem on a classic design. Done!
That's not really innovation, it's just rehashing some old crap. It would be nice if they actually came out with a new body style, or pioneered a way to make their guitars sound more consistently good.
There has to be a new way to make a Les Paul, with more common woods or in a different way, that will make it less expensive and sound similar. Why don't they ever look into that, instead of just coming out with the same junk? It's like they have zero ability to engineer anything new or worthwhile.
Gibson's innovation: throw a pre-existing trem on a classic design. Done!
That's not really innovation, it's just rehashing some old crap. It would be nice if they actually came out with a new body style, or pioneered a way to make their guitars sound more consistently good.
There has to be a new way to make a Les Paul, with more common woods or in a different way, that will make it less expensive and sound similar. Why don't they ever look into that, instead of just coming out with the same junk? It's like they have zero ability to engineer anything new or worthwhile.
FretFire
SingedFingerologist
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Easy, put a different brand name on the headstock. Part of the price you're paying is to have the word Gibson at the end of the neck, that's just the way it is. If you want a Gibson bad enough, you'll pay the asking price. Countless people prove that to be true every year.
Easy, put a different brand name on the headstock. Part of the price you're paying is to have the word Gibson at the end of the neck, that's just the way it is. If you want a Gibson bad enough, you'll pay the asking price. Countless people prove that to be true every year.
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Im with you.. I would like this. Lp chunk with a whammy option! I get this on my Washburn Steve Salas', but this is cool to see. I Lester you can burn on..
I dont like the traditional bursts on this tho. IMO, needs a solid color like black.
Im with you.. I would like this. Lp chunk with a whammy option! I get this on my Washburn Steve Salas', but this is cool to see. I Lester you can burn on..
I dont like the traditional bursts on this tho. IMO, needs a solid color like black.
super rad stuff
Skaforlifeologist
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
they do offer this model in black.
however if i was in the market for something like this i'd just opt for a carvin cs4, you can order them personalized, with the option for a floyd or wilkinson as mentioned above.
they do offer this model in black.
however if i was in the market for something like this i'd just opt for a carvin cs4, you can order them personalized, with the option for a floyd or wilkinson as mentioned above.
KeeperOS
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Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Let me see:
An LP with better access to the higher register: Check
A belly cut (I would have also preferred a forearm cut but that's just me being picky): Check
A trem-route INSTEAD (I hope) of the weight-relief thingy: Check (again, I hope)
A Floyd Rose (ok, while I LOVE the things personally I'd have used a dive-only Wilky or sth similar myself but again, we can't be picky): Check.
The typical expected price for a Gibson one-off-thingy: Check.
I honestly don't see what you're complaining about. It's not as if they stopped making the same thing since Les Paul himself.
If it were me I'd have preferred a less-shreddy trem (just because I think it'd suit it better), possibly a forearm contour and probably for about 1500-2000 less but, yeah, you guessed it, that's just me being picky
Let me see:
An LP with better access to the higher register: Check
A belly cut (I would have also preferred a forearm cut but that's just me being picky): Check
A trem-route INSTEAD (I hope) of the weight-relief thingy: Check (again, I hope)
A Floyd Rose (ok, while I LOVE the things personally I'd have used a dive-only Wilky or sth similar myself but again, we can't be picky): Check.
The typical expected price for a Gibson one-off-thingy: Check.
I honestly don't see what you're complaining about. It's not as if they stopped making the same thing since Les Paul himself.
If it were me I'd have preferred a less-shreddy trem (just because I think it'd suit it better), possibly a forearm contour and probably for about 1500-2000 less but, yeah, you guessed it, that's just me being picky
JohnnyGuitar
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Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
That's a Les Paul I would buy (if I had the $$$)... it needs the split diamond logo on the headstock - badly.
That's a Les Paul I would buy (if I had the $$$)... it needs the split diamond logo on the headstock - badly.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
+1. Put a Floyd, HSS, and a 5-way on an SG ("Super SG"), not a LP.
+1. Put a Floyd, HSS, and a 5-way on an SG ("Super SG"), not a LP.
Benjy_26
25's Nemesis
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Ever been in the same room with a Floyd?
A Floyd block is too tall for a SG. Now, one of those DC LP's would have been cool with a FLoyd, but, in my book, Gibby gets an A for effort and a B for execution (make it a solid color and cut $600 from the price tag).
BTW, they still sound very much like a Paul.
Ever been in the same room with a Floyd?
A Floyd block is too tall for a SG. Now, one of those DC LP's would have been cool with a FLoyd, but, in my book, Gibby gets an A for effort and a B for execution (make it a solid color and cut $600 from the price tag).
BTW, they still sound very much like a Paul.
super rad stuff
Skaforlifeologist
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
if the block were too tall for an sg, how come tony iommi uses one on his current sg:naughty:
if the block were too tall for an sg, how come tony iommi uses one on his current sg:naughty:
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Tony is using a Floyd? Now thats blasphemy! Finally, he will be playing the intro to Iron man the way I do.. hee hee
Tony is using a Floyd? Now thats blasphemy! Finally, he will be playing the intro to Iron man the way I do.. hee hee
SAguitar
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Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Try a Carvin! You can all the options you want with those characters, and then drop in your favorite pickups later!
Try a Carvin! You can all the options you want with those characters, and then drop in your favorite pickups later!
phil_104
Cheesesteakologist
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
+1. All those colors that gibson is dropping on robots would better serve this guitar. I would like to see this in hot rod red with chrome overtones.
+1. All those colors that gibson is dropping on robots would better serve this guitar. I would like to see this in hot rod red with chrome overtones.
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
oh yeah!! LP with a sustainer?? Sustain eternal. Id write a song thats the opposite of steve morse's Tumieni (sp?) notes. 2few notes. have one note and hold it for 3 minutes ...
oh yeah!! LP with a sustainer?? Sustain eternal. Id write a song thats the opposite of steve morse's Tumieni (sp?) notes. 2few notes. have one note and hold it for 3 minutes ...
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
a valid reason to buy one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEnE5DHrJkE
The man in the back said everyone attack!
a valid reason to buy one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEnE5DHrJkE
The man in the back said everyone attack!
Mr 9finger
Digitally Challenged
Re: Blasphemy ! Gibson did it again
Well genius, that would be because Floyd offers 3 different block lengths. 32, 37, and 42mm. I'm betting Iommi has a 32 on his SG and that was probably still a little too long. So I'd bet, it being Iommi and all, he had his tech grind the block down a bit and re drill the holes for the spring mount.
Well genius, that would be because Floyd offers 3 different block lengths. 32, 37, and 42mm. I'm betting Iommi has a 32 on his SG and that was probably still a little too long. So I'd bet, it being Iommi and all, he had his tech grind the block down a bit and re drill the holes for the spring mount.
