chorus but which one ?
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Johnny the Kid
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Re: chorus but which one ?
The Line 6 and Zoom pedals are modelers, not a true digital chorus.
The Line 6 and Zoom pedals are modelers, not a true digital chorus.
Archer250
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Re: chorus but which one ?
I need to inform you some things: 1) there are guys who like digital chorus for its clean character. Not everybody believes in an overly warm tone. 2)use a ton of true bypass pedals and you'll get signal drop, unless you use a good buffer.
I need to inform you some things: 1) there are guys who like digital chorus for its clean character. Not everybody believes in an overly warm tone. 2)use a ton of true bypass pedals and you'll get signal drop, unless you use a good buffer.
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beaubrummels
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Re: chorus but which one ?
I heard this when the original came out in the 70s and it has been the holy grail I've always tried to get close to. First time I heard it was on a Fender Rhodes, then later plugged in with an SG / Santana kind of rig. Always 'sounded like the record' to me. YMMV
I heard this when the original came out in the 70s and it has been the holy grail I've always tried to get close to. First time I heard it was on a Fender Rhodes, then later plugged in with an SG / Santana kind of rig. Always 'sounded like the record' to me. YMMV
Re: chorus but which one ?
yes but both are digital so, there is no comparison possible with an analog one for me
and when i read comment about expensive units, you will always find one guy who will said that
except about Stymon maybe.
digital unit are better than modelers or multi effects, but when you played with analog effects, you can't go back
it will be just an illusion about the sound to go back
so, i prefer analog with warm and lush/liquid sounds or when the dry signal is analog and the effect signal is digital and transparent
it will work too
i am waiting for my liquid chorus to just listen to it
and not this because i don't think it will be good in my pedalboard lol
the guy is a Marketing king
yes but both are digital so, there is no comparison possible with an analog one for me
and when i read comment about expensive units, you will always find one guy who will said that
except about Stymon maybe.
digital unit are better than modelers or multi effects, but when you played with analog effects, you can't go back
it will be just an illusion about the sound to go back
so, i prefer analog with warm and lush/liquid sounds or when the dry signal is analog and the effect signal is digital and transparent
it will work too
i am waiting for my liquid chorus to just listen to it
and not this because i don't think it will be good in my pedalboard lol
the guy is a Marketing
king
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St_Genesius
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Re: chorus but which one ?
I haven't tried that one, but if it's half as good as their Alter Ego, it would be on my chorus short list.
I haven't tried that one, but if it's half as good as their Alter Ego, it would be on my chorus short list.
aleclee
Major General GAS
Re: chorus but which one ?
Then why are you judging the BOSS with your eyes? The fact that you're dismissing it based on specs vs. sound would indicate that you're not using your ears to make the choice.
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Funkfingers
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Re: chorus but which one ?
In the words of the late Douglas Adams, this kind of reasoning can be explained by three reasons:
1 - Ignorance
2 - Stupidity
3 - Nothing Else.
In the words of the late Douglas Adams, this kind of reasoning can be explained by three reasons:
1 - Ignorance
2 - Stupidity
3 - Nothing Else.
Lazarus1140
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Johnny the Kid
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Re: chorus but which one ?
I disagree. Analog and digital mean nothing to me unless I'm looking at a clock. Second of all, yes the Zoom and Line 6 are digital but they're modelers so not really digital choruses at the same time.
I think you're telling yourself that analog is better than digital without giving either a real chance.
I disagree. Analog and digital mean nothing to me unless I'm looking at a clock. Second of all, yes the Zoom and Line 6 are digital but they're modelers so not really digital choruses at the same time.
I think you're telling yourself that analog is better than digital without giving either a real chance.
treyhaislip
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Re: chorus but which one ?
I went through the H2O and Neo Clone chorus pedals and could not dial them both in enough to keep them. I love the MXR Analog Chorus, is pretty versatile and can get just the right amount of Chorus while not greatly impacting the tone. I would say go for it but the best thing would be to play one before buying it (if you can.)
I went through the H2O and Neo Clone chorus pedals and could not dial them both in enough to keep them. I love the MXR Analog Chorus, is pretty versatile and can get just the right amount of Chorus while not greatly impacting the tone. I would say go for it but the best thing would be to play one before buying it (if you can.)
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: chorus but which one ?
I can make a chorus sound with my Digitech CF7 chorus factory so beautiful you'll cry and pee your pants at the same time.
Analog means nothing. Good sound means everything. And if you are dissing/poo-pooing/whatever means bad mouthing the Boss SC-1 and haven't tried it….may want to rethink that attitude.
It is probably the "beautiful" chorus sound you hear on halddf the recording you have ever heard….
I can make a chorus sound with my Digitech CF7 chorus factory so beautiful you'll cry and pee your pants at the same time.
Analog means nothing. Good sound means everything. And if you are dissing/poo-pooing/whatever means bad mouthing the Boss SC-1 and haven't tried it….may want to rethink that attitude.
It is probably the "beautiful" chorus sound you hear on halddf the recording you have ever heard….
Johnny the Kid
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Re: chorus but which one ?
For once I can agree with 100% of what Ace says.
Well done, sir.
For once I can agree with 100% of what Ace says.
Well done, sir.
Re: chorus but which one ?
I LOVE chorus, I HATE chorus..
- I think the things most choruses are missing are: a level/MIX control capable of giving more dry, less chorus, and a TIME control.
Chorus is based on a very short delay signal, with it's time swept up and down, mixed back with your dry signal, producing a moving phase difference, and a resultant series of moving notches in frequency response that we perceive as "chorus," very similar, but different to a phase shifter..
- Trouble is, you're always hearing that very short delay, which is a strange, intense, and to many people, unpleasant sound.
- It adds a boxy, midrangey quality to your sound, and alters the attack of your notes.
- So it becomes an "all or nothing" "special effect." We want that lush quality, but can't stand to use a chorus box for long..
I am a big fan of delays with modulation, where you control all the parameters; mix, delay time, speed ,& depth.
(If you use a long delay time. you have to use a lot less "depth" or "width" or you'll end up with wild detuning..)
If you are a big fan of mellow old school analog sounds, may I suggest: - - - The SEYMOUR DUNCAN VAPOR TRAIL ANALOG DELAY.
- As chorus. - Set the delay up as a short "slap-back," then reduce the delay time until you don't hear a discrete echo, then adjust speed, & depth to taste. - SWEET!
Better still; get TWO VAPOR TRAIL DELAYS, one set up for echo, (with some modulation of course..) and the other as chorus.
For a really cute trick; put the chorus unit IN THE FEEDBACK LOOP of the VAPOR TRAIL! - This will preserve your note attack and tone, but your decay will be very lush and swirly..
STRYMON also makes a ridiculously beautiful chorus. It's a little spendy, and of course, DIGITAL.
The VAPOR TRAIL however is a really GREAT DEAL!
ALSO: PEOPLE ARE NOT USING ENOUGH PHASE SHIFTERS..
I LOVE chorus, I HATE chorus..
- I think the things most choruses are missing are: a level/MIX control capable of giving more dry, less chorus, and a TIME control.
Chorus is based on a very short delay signal, with it's time swept up and down, mixed back with your dry signal, producing a moving phase difference, and a resultant series of moving notches in frequency response that we perceive as "chorus," very similar, but different to a phase shifter..
- Trouble is, you're always hearing that very short delay, which is a strange, intense, and to many people, unpleasant sound.
- It adds a boxy, midrangey quality to your sound, and alters the attack of your notes.
- So it becomes an "all or nothing" "special effect." We want that lush quality, but can't stand to use a chorus box for long..
I am a big fan of delays with modulation, where you control all the parameters; mix, delay time, speed ,& depth.
(If you use a long delay time. you have to use a lot less "depth" or "width" or you'll end up with wild detuning..)
If you are a big fan of mellow old school analog sounds, may I suggest: - - - The SEYMOUR DUNCAN VAPOR TRAIL ANALOG DELAY.
- As chorus. - Set the delay up as a short "slap-back," then reduce the delay time until you don't hear a discrete echo, then adjust speed, & depth to taste. - SWEET!
Better still; get TWO VAPOR TRAIL DELAYS, one set up for echo, (with some modulation of course..) and the other as chorus.
For a really cute trick; put the chorus unit IN THE FEEDBACK LOOP of the VAPOR TRAIL! - This will preserve your note attack and tone, but your decay will be very lush and swirly..
STRYMON also makes a ridiculously beautiful chorus. It's a little spendy, and of course, DIGITAL.
The VAPOR TRAIL however is a really GREAT DEAL!
ALSO: PEOPLE ARE NOT USING ENOUGH PHASE SHIFTERS..
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PFDarkside
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Re: chorus but which one ?
Sorry to throw a wrench into this whole thing, but I am digging the Voodoo Lab Analog Chorus big time. My favorite use is with speed and intensity up high for the faux Leslie. Also, speed lower and intensity down give me a nice motion without the chorus "sheen". Now, it's analog BBD, but a digital box can filter off the highs to emulate it.
Sorry to throw a wrench into this whole thing, but I am digging the Voodoo Lab Analog Chorus big time. My favorite use is with speed and intensity up high for the faux Leslie. Also, speed lower and intensity down give me a nice motion without the chorus "sheen". Now, it's analog BBD, but a digital box can filter off the highs to emulate it.
I realized tonight at practice that I need an Intensity control on my Phase 90.I LOVE chorus, I HATE chorus..
- I think the things most choruses are missing are: a level/MIX control capable of giving more dry, less chorus, and a TIME control.
Chorus is based on a very short delay signal, with it's time swept up and down, mixed back with your dry signal, producing a moving phase difference, and a resultant series of moving notches in frequency response that we perceive as "chorus," very similar, but different to a phase shifter..
- Trouble is, you're always hearing that very short delay, which is a strange, intense, and to many people, unpleasant sound.
- It adds a boxy, midrangey quality to your sound, and alters the attack of your notes.
- So it becomes an "all or nothing" "special effect." We want that lush quality, but can't stand to use a chorus box for long..
ALSO: PEOPLE ARE NOT USING ENOUGH PHASE SHIFTERS..
