Gibson guitar headed for possible bankruptcy.

Re: Gibson guitar headed for possible bankruptcy.

Edit: This is the second round of layoffs in the CS in a years time, there's a very real possibility that most of their skilled and knowledgeable people have been shown the door. Makes me wonder what will happen to CS quality.

So the carnage continues under Henry's "leadership"....
 
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I’d like to add paint or a decal to my 2017 Explorer that bears a remark about Henry. Any suggestions regarding processes or color schemes? The Explorer is ebony, white pickguard, rosewood board. I think I can supply something for the text.
 
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On the back, like artists used to do back in the day so you can flip it and show the audience, in gold foil letters like used to be on white collar glass office doors 50 years ago.

Instead of saying thanks, have something very similar to the back of Hank III's guitar, only change the "Curb" to Henry
 
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How about
“Down with Henry!”
Or
Henry must go!!”

Just channel you’re inner Tom Morello!
 
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I’d like to add paint or a decal to my 2017 Explorer that bears a remark about Henry. Any suggestions regarding processes or color schemes? The Explorer is ebony, white pickguard, rosewood board. I think I can supply something for the text.

Do woodburning, then clear over it. If you want it perfectly smooth, fill the burned letters with clear 5 min epoxy, sand flat, then clear

If you dont want to woodburn, artist acrylics can be lacquered or cleared over if allowed to cure 3-4 days before clearing. Some colored pencil can be cleared, but if its wax based, it can " bloom" through the clear if applied too heavily.

Nice thing about the pencil or artist paints is you can sand it off later. Just scuff your original clear with a gray scotch brite pad, do NOT sand through it. Just scratch yhe surface. Then do your pencil or paint work, then a LIGHT coat of clear x 2 or 3, then a medium coat of clear, and wet sand and polish
 
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What do you think is going to happen to Epiphone in the future?
 
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So, they're also being hunted by the Chinese now too. Please God don't let real Chibson's become a thing

Never gonna happen. The Chinese KNOW no one would buy China-made Gibsons. They could buy it, though - and take the profits home.
 
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People do buy Chinese Gibsons. I think the younger generation is going to care a lot less about where consumer goods are made, esp. the further away we get from the idea that Americans were ever able or adept to put a screw in something (that didn't scream back.) American-made guitars are the exception.

(There will always be a market for artisan-made US instruments in the US in all seriousness. But they won't hold that same standard at price-points of mass production guitars, unless something changes.)
 
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Never gonna happen. The Chinese KNOW no one would buy China-made Gibsons. They could buy it, though - and take the profits home.

That would be like someone in Mississippi buying the #1 chopstick company in China and producing them in Biloxi.


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People are toasting Henry on this thread like they were CNBC investigative reporter with an unlimited access to insider information.

But until you really have a clue what's going on, I think you should stick to what you do best: Drooling over the next holy grail reverb pedal or discussing comb filtering effect on 2-cm shift of neck pickup in a 24-fret guitar. Sorry.
 
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I accidentally posted this in the other thread...
It is likely that if Gibson goes bankrupt that their guitars will not only continue to be available, but will also have more consistent product and qc, and probably at lower prices. The name is far too recognized and valuable to be allowed to disappear. No creditor would ever allow that. For creditors to recoup their money, they need to ensure that all available value is realized from the assets. The Gibson name is their biggest asset. Creditors know this.

Upper management may go, there may be new owners, but Gibson guitars will continue to be made and sold. I think personally that bankruptcy may actually save the brand.
 
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People are toasting Henry on this thread like they were CNBC investigative reporter with an unlimited access to insider information.

But until you really have a clue what's going on, I think you should stick to what you do best: Drooling over the next holy grail reverb pedal or discussing comb filtering effect on 2-cm shift of neck pickup in a 24-fret guitar. Sorry.
I haven't been beating that dead horse but it certainly appears that he gambled, and lost, in regards to his plan for the company.
 
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Yeah but the way my mind pictures Chinese guitars? It'll be 12yo kids working 12-15 hour days glueing the cheapest 20 pieces of "wood" on the face of the planet together in a 105° sweatshop. The whole while some retard fat cat will be sitting up in an office eating tiger bone and rhinoceros horn sammiches trying to figure out how to make photo-flame cheaper.

At least here we can get something other than state media scripts of what's going on. Here we can get second hand accounts of how they are built and that some type of mahogany and maple is being used, and some of them sound effin amazing.

I own Japanese stuff and Korean stuff, I just prefer my Gibby's be made here, even if it is costing me more and the end quality isn't dramatically better than an overseas guitar. Maybe I'm too old school but that's how I feel.
 
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People are toasting Henry on this thread like they were CNBC investigative reporter with an unlimited access to insider information.

But until you really have a clue what's going on, I think you should stick to what you do best: Drooling over the next holy grail reverb pedal or discussing comb filtering effect on 2-cm shift of neck pickup in a 24-fret guitar. Sorry.

He deserves to be toasted. He's running one of the greatest guitar companies in the world into the ground and axing people that have given their best to the company for decades because he wants to build robots with strings. He had the golden goose and decided to cook it instead of selling the eggs!

I'm pretty sure that Moody's and S&P have a pretty firm grasp of his situation, stick a fork in him.
 
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They proved that they were capable of this in 2005, when they launched the reissue of the Sambora model. That model – retitled Jersey Star – was on par with the golden age products. Too bad what has come since has basically been crap!

Was the reissue good? I wondered and I sure wanted one. But, didnt have the funds and since I wasnt sure of how good it would be, I was not bending over backwards to scrape up the funds..

Bull, read reviews from people that bought them, not just the losers on youtube thinkin they're cool joining the hate club on Gibson. So is Gibson making junk guitars? I hear that all the time, or is it mismanagement? I got one coming in 2 days, I took the plunge finally . Slash Anaconda, I guess I aint cool tho . I bet everybody cant wait to hear me say its junk, right?

Bro, I hope you LOVE the thing and that its all you could hope for!! Gibson can still make some amazing guitars. I think the feeling ( I know mine is) that for what they charge, every one should be amazing! I have a LP Trad Pro that even tho it wasnt the color I wanted, from the moment I played it, I couldnt get it out of my mind.. ( I wanted black, this one was wine red) I played a bunch of black ones, and none of them had the mojo of the red one.. I ended up getting the red one..

I think that there has been some QC issues here and there but more than likely that has been blown out of proportion. By no means is Gibson putting junk out there. I own 3 Gibsons and they all are great guitars.
I think Henry is completely out of the loop as far as what the average consumer wants. He is leaning on the Gibson name and as such is putting more stock in it’s historical value rather than the value of the instrument he sells. For the price Gibson charges, the hardware, electronics etc should be the best money can buy...but often that’s not the way it is.
I often wondered Fender can put out a top of the line Strat for $1500-$2000 while Gibson is charging double that. It makes no sense.

The most expensive guitar I ever bought was a Gibson "2008" model. I ordered it, paid a very hefty sum for it. They came back and said they wouldnt make it for me as they were no longer in production. Although still on the website and in the dealers system and all. They tried to get me to take a regular new standard. the Dealer fought for me. I got the guitar.. (Was well over $3k) and it was crap. Binding flaws, crappy top and other issues. Was sent back.. Got another one after delays. Supposedly mine was the very last "2008" Model made. The new one was visually fine. Although the figuring in the top was more bland than the first one.. But the guitar had NO
mojo at all. So, I sold it at quite a loss.


I also agree with what someone said.. Seems their whole thing these days is collectable... Most of the ads even say something like a must have for the collector. And they are pricing them as collectible museum pieces.. They need to just focus on making awesome playing /sounding guitars.
 
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Was the reissue good? I wondered and I sure wanted one. But, didnt have the funds and since I wasnt sure of how good it would be, I was not bending over backwards to scrape up the funds..



Bro, I hope you LOVE the thing and that its all you could hope for!! Gibson can still make some amazing guitars. I think the feeling ( I know mine is) that for what they charge, every one should be amazing! I have a LP Trad Pro that even tho it wasnt the color I wanted, from the moment I played it, I couldnt get it out of my mind.. ( I wanted black, this one was wine red) I played a bunch of black ones, and none of them had the mojo of the red one.. I ended up getting the red one..



The most expensive guitar I ever bought was a Gibson "2008" model. I ordered it, paid a very hefty sum for it. They came back and said they wouldnt make it for me as they were no longer in production. Although still on the website and in the dealers system and all. They tried to get me to take a regular new standard. the Dealer fought for me. I got the guitar.. (Was well over $3k) and it was crap. Binding flaws, crappy top and other issues. Was sent back.. Got another one after delays. Supposedly mine was the very last "2008" Model made. The new one was visually fine. Although the figuring in the top was more bland than the first one.. But the guitar had NO
mojo at all. So, I sold it at quite a loss.


I also agree with what someone said.. Seems their whole thing these days is collectable... Most of the ads even say something like a must have for the collector. And they are pricing them as collectible museum pieces.. They need to just focus on making awesome playing /sounding guitars.

That sucks man...sorry you had that bad experience. ☹️
 
Re: Gibson guitar headed for possible bankruptcy.

Do woodburning, then clear over it. If you want it perfectly smooth, fill the burned letters with clear 5 min epoxy, sand flat, then clear

If you dont want to woodburn, artist acrylics can be lacquered or cleared over if allowed to cure 3-4 days before clearing. Some colored pencil can be cleared, but if its wax based, it can " bloom" through the clear if applied too heavily.

Nice thing about the pencil or artist paints is you can sand it off later. Just scuff your original clear with a gray scotch brite pad, do NOT sand through it. Just scratch yhe surface. Then do your pencil or paint work, then a LIGHT coat of clear x 2 or 3, then a medium coat of clear, and wet sand and polish

Now that you’ve gone through all that, I think I like the Explorer too much to do anything like that.
 
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