vox vs. roland cube?
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More-Gear-Than-Skill
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
I have a cube 30 and it's nice. There's a newer improved version called the 30x or somesuch. Lovely amp. Be sure to try both amps with single coil and then a bucker guitar. And maybe some form of booster/overdrive infront. The cube has a very nice bass response. Tight and deep. I like.
I have a cube 30 and it's nice. There's a newer improved version called the 30x or somesuch. Lovely amp. Be sure to try both amps with single coil and then a bucker guitar. And maybe some form of booster/overdrive infront. The cube has a very nice bass response. Tight and deep. I like.
ErikH
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
I've played both (Cube 60 and AD50 though), like both, but own the Vox AD50. It's a little more open sounding, more natural. The valve reactor power amp is incredible. I've had people say, "Hey, that Vox sounds awesome. Is that a new tube model?" The look on their face is priceless when I show them what it really is. I wonder how many sales that reaction has generated for Vox, not just from me using one but from anyone else.
I've played both (Cube 60 and AD50 though), like both, but own the Vox AD50. It's a little more open sounding, more natural. The valve reactor power amp is incredible. I've had people say, "Hey, that Vox sounds awesome. Is that a new tube model?" The look on their face is priceless when I show them what it really is. I wonder how many sales that reaction has generated for Vox, not just from me using one but from anyone else.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
I've got the Vox Valvetronix AD100. It's more than you need, but I can say my Valvetronix rocks, sings, whispers, growls, etc.
- Keith
I've got the Vox Valvetronix AD100. It's more than you need, but I can say my Valvetronix rocks, sings, whispers, growls, etc.
- Keith
ErikH
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
VR30? What's the VR30? I only know of the AD30VT. There's no VR30 listed on their site.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found the VR30 manual in the downloads section. It's not offered anymore it looks like. According to the manual, it does/did have the Valve Reactor power amp, but it is/was not a modelling amp like the AD series. The VR would be more a direct competitor to the Marshall AVT's than anything.
The Marshall AVTX is a hybrid (tube and SS) amp. The 12AX7 is in the preamp is does little more than act as a clipping diode. It's not even in the same class as the Valvetronix stuff, which are modellers.
VR30? What's the VR30? I only know of the AD30VT. There's no VR30 listed on their site.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found the VR30 manual in the downloads section. It's not offered anymore it looks like. According to the manual, it does/did have the Valve Reactor power amp, but it is/was not a modelling amp like the AD series. The VR would be more a direct competitor to the Marshall AVT's than anything.
The Marshall AVTX is a hybrid (tube and SS) amp. The 12AX7 is in the preamp is does little more than act as a clipping diode. It's not even in the same class as the Valvetronix stuff, which are modellers.
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Pink Unicorn Horsey
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
Just to clarify:
VOX AD = VOX VR + FX
You could also go LP > PODxt > VOX DA, which is like LP > PODxt > VOX VR + FX. For boost, you could do LP > PODxt > TS9 > VOX DA, which is like LP > PODxt > TS9 > VOX VR + FX.
Also see Maxwell's equations. Check out Faraday's fascinating law of induction.
Just to clarify:
VOX AD = VOX VR + FX
You could also go LP > PODxt > VOX DA, which is like LP > PODxt > VOX VR + FX. For boost, you could do LP > PODxt > TS9 > VOX DA, which is like LP > PODxt > TS9 > VOX VR + FX.
Also see Maxwell's equations. Check out Faraday's fascinating law of induction.
Gearjoneser
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
I know I sound like a broken record, but if you buy a Valvetronix, buy a head version and use it with the same quality cab you'd use with a tube head.
The cab is half the tone, and the Marshall and Mesa models sound so much better with a closed back Celestion cab. I can get great tones out of the AD60VTH on top of a Bogner 2-12 Vin 30 cab. Then, I go to GC and plug into the Vox combos, and they sound decent, but only 60% as good as my home practice rig.
I know I sound like a broken record, but if you buy a Valvetronix, buy a head version and use it with the same quality cab you'd use with a tube head.
The cab is half the tone, and the Marshall and Mesa models sound so much better with a closed back Celestion cab. I can get great tones out of the AD60VTH on top of a Bogner 2-12 Vin 30 cab. Then, I go to GC and plug into the Vox combos, and they sound decent, but only 60% as good as my home practice rig.
ErikH
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
Sorry, but that is incorrect. The VR series were not modellers. They were two channel amps with the Valve Reactor power amp. I just read the manual online. The only thing the VR and AD share is the power amp.
cronnin
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
Yes, like tha man said AD= VR+ FX(moddellers included here
)
I was thinkink of the Vox AD at first, but I heard many people having some weird technical problems...like volume falldowns etc. (it seems like the dummy speaker circuit that simulates the impedance changes of a real speaker is not well designed?)
Yes, like tha man said AD= VR+ FX(moddellers included here
)I was thinkink of the Vox AD at first, but I heard many people having some weird technical problems...like volume falldowns etc. (it seems like the dummy speaker circuit that simulates the impedance changes of a real speaker is not well designed?)
ErikH
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Re: vox vs. roland cube?
Problems with the AD series have been resolved. I researched all that and even made a few phone calls before getting mine. The problem was overheating and that was resolved by putting a fan inside with the rest of the stuff.
Again, the AD is a modeller, the VR was not.
Problems with the AD series have been resolved. I researched all that and even made a few phone calls before getting mine. The problem was overheating and that was resolved by putting a fan inside with the rest of the stuff.
Again, the AD is a modeller, the VR was not.
