Things you could'nt care less about that the vast majority of guitar players luv...

DankStar said:
I mean I get it, the new Kreator (not saying that’s your thing but it’s modern), for example, sounds huge and perfect and balanced but there’s a rawness and imperfection I miss compared to say, Terrible Certainty. Probably some nostalgia going on too. To a fault my ears are tuned to 70s and 80s production.
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I'm not saying you're wrong. Sometimes bad is good. Especially in art. Especially in Metal.

I'm not really into Thrash, honestly. For me, the best-sounding Metal albums are from the 90's and 2000's with Fredrik Nordstrom and Colin Richardson first and Andy Sneap later. But I'm way more into Melodic Death Metal than Thrash, personally.

But I get you. I'm not into the current trend of "OMGz u N33d da MiDz on 11!" in production either. I'm more into 90's and 2000's scoopy, ugly, and gainy sounds.
 
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Rex_Rocker said:
I'm not saying you're wrong. Sometimes bad is good. Especially in art. Especially in Metal.

I'm not really into Thrash, honestly. For me, the best-sounding Metal albums are from the 90's and 2000's with Fredrik Nordstrom and Colin Richardson first and Andy Sneap later. But I'm way more into Melodic Death Metal than Thrash, personally.

But I get you. I'm not into the current trend of "OMGz u N33d da MiDz on 11!" in production either. I'm more into 90's and 2000's scoopy, ugly, and gainy sounds.
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I definitely like many albums from those engineers!
 
DankStar said:
I mean I get it, the new Kreator (not saying that’s your thing but it’s modern), for example, sounds huge and perfect and balanced but there’s a rawness and imperfection I miss compared to say, Terrible Certainty. Probably some nostalgia going on too. To a fault my ears are tuned to 70s and 80s production.
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The thing about productions like that is they're basically power metal (ie Euro-power) productions that a lot of old thrash bands are opting for nowadays & I think while those productions work fine for eurppower, they really don't for thrash..

But then there are a lot more power-metal-ish/melodic elements in the music itself than anything you would hear in albums like Terrible Certainity/Extreme aggression etc anyway...

Also it's funny how far live sound production has come as well, cuz I actually saw Kreator play here last weekend and they had exactly the same polished/plasticky sound they have on the newer albums...totally pristine.
 
"Things you could'nt care less about that the vast majority of guitar players luv..."

Can't speak to "vast majority", but stuff I've commonly seen...
  1. ​Underrating or overrating guitar players (ratings have more to do with personal taste, which has little to do with talent and ability)
  2. Comparing tone and quality against the price of a guitar or amp, as if price and characteristics are linearly correlated. (People need to learn the 80/20 rule, that last 20% of quality is contained in 80% of the price. So a $5000 guitar is likely only a 20% 'better' than a $1000 guitar, but those small differences are indeed needed by certain players; like ones who work professionally, tour and record, need reliability and/or have their sound recorded and produced where those nuances become very audible, etc. There are also 'collectors' who care about little things, so businesses will sell to them and take the money. Additionally, there are anomalies to be found at every price point. If you play 15 cheap guitars of the same model, you are likely to come across that special one that somehow came off the line in perfect tolerance that plays well and does the job.)
  3. Requiring specific specs in order to make a purchase to get a sound. (Specs are informative, but not definitive. You have to really try different things to find out what the result will be and what works for you, for your guitar, your music, your situation.)
  4. ​Demanding to know EXACTLY what equipment the original player used in order to get a particular sound (man, grow an ear.)
    • Subpoint: Particularly fanboying out on what EVH used from 1978-1984. (It's 2024, it's been more than 40 years, he's been dead for 4 years. Whatever could be documented has been, and several specifics will simply remain unknown forever. So grow an ear, or learn to read, but give it up when there is no more information to be had. You simply aren't the clairvoyant Rasputin of EVH guitar tone you think you are. I would doubt his own son could answer many of the questions people on gear forums think they know the answer to. Just grow an ear, and move on.)
  5. Taylor Swift - on guitar boards I see pockets of fanatic love but mostly total hate and diss (probably depends on the age of the opinionated). For me, nice music though I would never rush out and buy it. I don't really get the hype either way. Maybe it's related to my underrating/overrating point 1 above.
 
Also a big for me:

Combo amps.

They're not more convenient. They're heavier to carry than splitting the weight between a head and a cab. Their footprint is not any smaller than the comparable speaker/cab combo. They don't sound better either because internal volume is used up by the amp's guts. They're harder-wearing on the tubes too, if they're running on tubes. Also, that makes them more prone to microphonics. Most of the time, they're not pointing up at your ears, but down at your shins.

Now, this is more of a personal taste thing, but most of the time they're open back. While I do acknoledge some cleans and lower gain sounds sound cool through open back cabs, the vast majority of what I play (or at least the tones that I go for for what I play) doesn't.

Personally, I would never buy a combo amp again. Ever. I've got a couple of 1x12 cabs that I can plug a head into for home practice or a 4x12 for gigs.

That leads me to another thing...

Small 1x12 cabs for recording.

Or for anything when you actually want to sound good. They sound so... small and boxy. At least under the mic. It's a common misconception that smaller cabs have less low-end. They also have a less open top-end. They sound narrow.

Oh, and speaking of mics:

Most Eminence speakers.

They just don't want to sound good under the mic, IMO/IME. At least the ones I've tried and most of the ones I've heard clips of.
 
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PS412 said:
^^^ 100% agree with combos. Just not good.
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It really depends on the music the band is playing. It would make no sense for me to use a 4x12 live, and besides, that would be completely the wrong sound for my band.
 
Mincer said:
It really depends on the music the band is playing. It would make no sense for me to use a 4x12 live, and besides, that would be completely the wrong sound for my band.
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I'm a closed back slant 2/12 sort of guy now.
I have listened to some of your stuff and can without a doubt say Lemmies Murder One and a wall of 4/12 would not work for you.
 
Oh I may as well just get it over with and come out and say it.
Effects. I don't like them, none of them and will only use them when someone throws a case or cymbal or something at me,
 
I feel like some (mostly Marshall) combo amps can sound good, but rarely, if ever, better than a full sized amp and a 4x12.

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Mincer said:
It really depends on the music the band is playing. It would make no sense for me to use a 4x12 live, and besides, that would be completely the wrong sound for my band.
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You could use a 2x12. Or a 4x10. Or a 2x10. It doesn't have to be a 4x12. :)
 
80's_Thrash_Metal said:
I feel like some (mostly Marshall) combo amps can sound good, but rarely, if ever, better than a full sized amp and a 4x12.

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Yeah, the sound is only part of why I don't like them. It's all the other stuff with the sound aspect added to it.

I don't doubt there are good-sounding combos... but even if they sound good, they more than likely weight a ton and are inconvenient (to me).
 
Its not weight of a combo
its convenience

I'd need three arms to carry head, cab and guitar up a flight of stairs
 
ehdwuld said:
Its not weight of a combo
its convenience

I'd need three arms to carry head, cab and guitar up a flight of stairs
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Unless it's a monster combo like an AC30. That's so heavy it would be more "convenient" to carry the head in one hand and the speaker cab in the other. I wouldn't want to be carrying that combo around with one hand. (But that's because I'm not as strong as I was 50 years ago. Then I used to carry a 65lb. head in one hand and an 65lb. cab in the other.)
 
Monster combos are the best-sounding combos most of the time, unfortunately.

I'd rather make two trips carrying a 5150 head, and a 2x12 cab, one at at time, than struggle to carry the 5150 2x12 combo. Ugh.

Plus the head and cab would probably sound like that extra 5% better, IMO.
 
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