Chris Pile
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I've had 2 Banker guitars on my bench. Both were nice, but they don't come close to threatening Gibson.
WTH Gibson?
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All I could think when watching those things in action was "one more thing to go wrong." Cool idea but imo were a prime example that sometimes simpler can be better
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Gibson finally gives common sense justification for their lawsuits
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Policy/Legal/Lawsuits
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Policy/Legal/Lawsuits
NegativeEase
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#$%^&*(*&^%$#$%^&*. :smash::laugh2:
NegativeEase
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Gibson did come after Banker -Banker's solution was to pay the license to produce the Gibson designs -and honestly, It's not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things.
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One of Jerry's Kids
80's_Thrash_Metal
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I have used eBay quick connectors and learned to wire them myself, and I've also just yanked the whole board out, cut the connectors off and wired it straight up.
I like yanking it all out better. YMMV
I still believe the idea of tying strings around a post is generally a bad idea, and there has to be a better way to attach strings and keep them in tune. Gibson's idea was bad and clumsy, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't demand better.
Chris Pile
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When the battery ran down, they didn't work AT ALL. They locked up, and you couldn't even turn them manually.
JB_From_Hell
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Just got done gutting all that nonsense. I was pretty surprised by how heavy the PCB is.
Forgot to mention, the guitar had the wrong pickups/wiring from the factory. It's a 2018 Studio, which should've had 57 Classics with push/pulls. It had 490s, no push/pulls. I really love the guitar, but it feels very much like I love it in spite of it saying Gibson on the headstock.
80's_Thrash_Metal
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Amen to all of that!
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
People pay pretty good money for the PCBs. I put mine on eBay instead of letting it collect dust.
beaubrummels
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I saved mine to restore the guitar back to stock when I'm done testing pickups and wiring with it.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Seriously? I think I'll give that a shot.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
If memory serves, I think I got around $75 for it. Beats a poke in the eye.
The real identity of Gibson is "mediocre guitar at an extraordinarily inflated price". They are copied so much because it is easy to...easy to copy a simple guitar with mediocre quality at a cheaper price. They would never get copied if Gibsons were priced at what they were worth. There would be no profit in it.
Most people don't understand what makes a truly great quality guitar so they rely on the brand recognition or reputation. People are generally too lazy to try out the guitars they plan on buying so they go with the name..."can't go wrong getting the best (?)". I truly believe that if Gibson started selling their guitars under a different name, like "Oligo Guitars", they would be out of business within 3 months. They wouldn't have the brand recognition, and people would see that there are much better guitars available for way lower prices.
This is what keeps Gibson in business..."G-I-B-S-O-N".
It is NOT their guitars!
NegativeEase
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I do not understand this response.
Gibson had the more difficult through necks, angled headstock, recessed pickup cavities, backside electronic cavity, post mounted bridges, edged cable jack.
Fender style guitars are the easy to copy, flat neck, maple, bolt on neck, pickupguard moutned pickups and electronics, bridge screwed directly into the body.. Leo was trying to make the easiest guitar to build possible to pair with his amps.
Gibson were absolutely the harder style of guitar build to copy. -Everything about a Gibson was more difficult than most contemporaries, as they kept to more traditional luthier techniques requiring higher skill level.
I don't know how you can have a basic principle of luthier history so backwards.
Chris Pile
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All the Gibson haters can suck it.
Their opinions are rooted in fantasy, jealousy, and lies.
Yes, Gibson should up its own game, but they are NOT the crap that these knotheads try to represent them to be.
The haters would have us think Gibson is Hondo.
Just not true.
Their opinions are rooted in fantasy, jealousy, and lies.
Yes, Gibson should up its own game, but they are NOT the crap that these knotheads try to represent them to be.
The haters would have us think Gibson is Hondo.
Just not true.
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